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Old 04-29-2013, 08:02 PM    (permalink
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I stopped reading after you said Simms is better then Jordan. GTFO with that weakass trolling garbage.

I thought Ireland did a pretty decent job during the draft. Not much complaints other then wishing he drafted a slot WR somewhere and a LT. Dallas Thomas COULD be a LT I guess but all I gathered about him, he seems more of a guard. Loved the Jordan pick and what a rape job he did to the Raiders by only giving up one 2nd rounder to move up that high. Brady gonna be pissing himself when he sees Wake on one side and Jordan on the other.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:37 PM    (permalink
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Projected starting lineup by yours truly
Offense
QB- Ryan Tannehill
RB- Lamar Miller
FB- J-Train
WR1- Mike Wallace
WR2- Brian Hartline
Slot- Brandon Gibson
TE- Dustin Keller
LT- Jonathan Martin
LG- Dallas Thomas
C- Mike Pouncey
RG- Richie Incognito
RT- Tyson Calbo

Defense
DE- Cam Wake
DT- Randy Starks
DT- Paul Soliai
DE- Jared Odrick
Pass rusher/3rd down- Dion Jordan
OLB- Phillip Wheeler
MLB- Dannell Ellerbe
OLB- Koa Misi
CB- Brent Grimes
CB- Richard Marshall
NB- Jamar Taylor
S- Jimmy Wilson
S- Rashad Jones

Special Teams
K- Caleb Sturgis
P- Brandon Field
LS- John Denney
Returner- Marcus Thigpen

What are your all's thoughts? Think we can reach 9 wins at least with this lineup barring injury?
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Old 05-17-2013, 10:25 AM    (permalink
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So I was bored and I was looking at the "5-year" plan kind of thing and its amazing to look at our drafts from the last five years. When you follow the arc, its no wonder we've been mediocre, at best, the last two years and are now trending upwards. It's also important to mention that while a lot of these guys aren't on the team anymore, Ireland hasn't been quite as bad as his reputation might lead you to think.

2008:
1. Jake Long
2a. Phillip Merling
2b. Chad Henne
3. Kendall Langford
4. Shawn Murphy
6a. Jalen Parmele
6b. Donald Thomas
6c. Lex Hilliard
7. Lionel Dotson
Notable UDFAs: Davone Bess, Dan Carpenter

This is actually a really solid group of players. Shawn Murphy was the only real bust here and him and Dotson are the only two that are out of football. While none of these guys are on the Dolphins anymore (save for Carpenter who isn't expected to make the final roster this year), there are three current NFL starters among this group (Long, Langford, Thomas), with Henne as a potential starter as well, and the others are all sticking on rosters as depth players. That being said, the fact that none of them remain on the Dolphins points to their inability to retain their talent. Notable: There are three other UDFAs that were originally in camp with Miami that are still on NFL rosters, DT Anthony Toribio (Chiefs), TE Matthew Mulligan (Packers), and Pro Bowl FB Marcel Reese (Raiders).

2009:

1. Vontae Davis
2a. Pat White
2b. Sean Smith
3. Patrick Turner
4. Brian Hartline
5a. John Nalbone
5b. Chris Clemons
6. Andrew Gardner
7. J.D. Folsom

This group is about on par with the 2008 group, though there are still two players on the Dolphins here in Hartline and Clemons, both of which are starters. Davis and Smith were both good picks despite neither still remaining on the team. Gardner has stuck around as a depth OT in the NFL, currently on the Texans. Nalbone, Turner, and Folsom are all out of the NFL and White is trying a comeback attempt after failing miserably and the silly Redskins are entertaining it. White and Turner were both big-time WTF?!?!?! picks as nobody really expected them to be NFL players. Ryan Baker is the only UDFA that deserves mention as he stuck around for a while bouncing between the active roster and the practice squad but he's out of football now.

2010:

1. Jared Odrick
2. Koa Misi
3. John Jerry
4. A.J. Edds
5a. Nolan Carroll
5b. Reshad Jones
7a. Chris McCoy
7b. Austin Spitler
Notable UDFA: Marlon Moore, Jonathon Amaya, Roberto Wallace

Edds and McCoy are the only two from this class that aren't still on the roster. Edds is out of football and McCoy recently signed with the Eagles after a couple seasons in Canada. Odrick, Misi, Jerry, Carroll, and Jones have all been starters at one point or another, with Jones being an elite safety this season and Odrick being an above average player. I feel like this was a turning point for Ireland/Miami. I think this draft produced a better overall crop of starters as we started to see more immediate contributions and higher-caliber players.

2011:
1. Mike Pouncey
2. Daniel Thomas
4. Edmond Gates
6. Charles Clay
7a. Frank Kearse
7b. Jimmy Wilson
Notable UDFA: Pat Devlin

This is Ireland's smallest draft class and probably the weakest overall. Despite finding the best C in the NFL in this class, none of the other players have been anything more than a role player/minor contributor. Thomas has struggled with health and has few fans and there's a good chance he might not make it out of training camp. Gates and Kearse are still developing on other teams' rosters but neither have shown much. Clay has flashed at times, as has Wilson and both could push for starting positions this year. This class looks weak overall on paper but could still have a strong showing if Thomas can somehow turn things around and/or if Clay can find some consistency and Wilson can wrest the FS job from Clemons.

2012:

1. Ryan Tannehill
2. Jonathan Martin
3a. Olivier Vernon
3b. Michael Egnew
4. Lamar Miller
5. Josh Kaddu
6. B.J. Cunningham
7a. Kheeston Randall
7b. Rishard Matthews

Finally, Miami took a QB in the first round! This class will be make or break on Tannehill honestly. Cunningham is the only one that didn't make the roster last year, spending the year with Eagles and I think it would be a mild upset if any of them didn't make the roster again this year. Martin, Tannehill, and Miller all showed flashes last year and all three will be counted on to take big steps forward in their second season. Vernon will likely see decreased playing time on defense with Jordan in tow but he should be a core special teamer. A wildcard here is Egnew. He looked terrible last season, similar to guys like Gates, Pat White, and Pat Turner. Will he come to training camp and make massive improvements or will he look like the same player and get cut?

Overall, it seems pretty clear why Miami has been improving the last couple of years. The last few classes have produced a ton of starters and they found some big-time players in Jones and Pouncey. If a few more of the guys that are on the fringe can take steps forward, particularly Tannehill, and supplemented with all the signings we made, I firmly believe that we can end the Patriots' reign, probably not this year, but hopefully we can finally provide them with a real threat within the division that can stand up for the long haul.
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Ugh Michael Egnew.
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Well...still an improvement from last season.

Is it just me or has Charles Clay been a forgotten man for a while now? Granted he needs a lot of work still but I like him as a potential #2 TE/HB.
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