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Old 06-17-2013, 08:22 AM    (permalink
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I think this is one of the strongest positions in the draft. There are 4 to 5 guys who could go top 50 IMO. Here's how I rank them:

1) ASJ
2) Colt Lyerla
3) Xavier Grimble
4) Randall Telfair
5) Eric Ebron


I really like Ebron from what I've watched. He reminds me a lot of Jared Cook and I think he'll be a dynamic pass catcher in the NFL.
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ASJ Would be delicious as a steeler
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This is a deep year. It's been 6 years since we've seen 2 TEs taken in round one. That should happen this year. Although it's assuming ASJ and Lyerla declare. If they don't, it's a pretty crappy year and certainly not as good as 2013 was.

ASJ and Lyerla are very unique athletes at the position. Both very different athletes too. They are good enough that teams that are broken elsewhere will be tempted to take one of these luxury picks.
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Sefarian Jenkins and Lyerla are potentially all NFL types but both need to keep their heads on straight and have good seasons.

ASJ is more your big TE that can make all the catches and block a little and Lyerla is more fluid and a great blocker but short on production at this point.
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These senior FBS TEs are the highest rated by the scouts I have talked with so far. I'm sure this list will change heavily though.

Justin Jones East Carolina
Marcel Jensen Fresno State
Arthur Lynch Georgia
Ted Bolser Indiana
C.J. Fiedorowicz Iowa
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Fiedorowicz screams a poor man's Heath Miller to me. He just gets the job done, though he is not that athletic.
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Is ASJ really a legit elite TE prospect if not for the off the field stuff? I've seen him play and always saw the athleticism, but I guess I don't know how he's gonna time.
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A.C Leonard could be a guy to watch as well.
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Is ASJ really a legit elite TE prospect if not for the off the field stuff? I've seen him play and always saw the athleticism, but I guess I don't know how he's gonna time.
A single DUI shouldn't hurt him too much. His on-field ability more than makes up for it.
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There is a LOT of projection in this class, but there's a lot that needs to turn out right.
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These senior FBS TEs are the highest rated by the scouts I have talked with so far. I'm sure this list will change heavily though.

Justin Jones East Carolina
Marcel Jensen Fresno State
Arthur Lynch Georgia
Ted Bolser Indiana
C.J. Fiedorowicz Iowa
Rob Blanchflower Massachusetts
Gabe Holmes Purdue
Jacob Pedersen Wisconsin
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A.C Leonard could be a guy to watch as well.
Leonard is a small schooler and a junior. He may declare but I don't think he should. He needs to develop more but certainly has the talent to be a really good one in two years.
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Back with the team - now he just needs to keep his head on straight. Hopefully he learned his lesson, but of course you never know with these guys.

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Xavier Grimble ftw!

Ebron needs to improve his hands. I like seeing him rush the passer.
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Boo. Stanford doesn't have a tight end I can pimp this year. Luke Kaumatule is next in line but he is only a sophomore. Stanford put out 5 decent TEs recently.
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Justin Jones East Carolina
Marcel Jensen Fresno State
Arthur Lynch Georgia
Ted Bolser Indiana
C.J. Fiedorowicz Iowa
Rob Blanchflower Massachusetts
Gabe Holmes Purdue
Jacob Pedersen Wisconsin
I agree with a lot of guy son this list, Jones is a possible star if he plays up to his potential, I love his ability but he has to produce more. Fiedorowicz has no reason why he should not become elite this season, the Hawkeyes do not have many receiver weapons, he should get the ball a lot and do a lot with it and if he does not it will be a big disappointment.

Pedersen is very underrated, good pass catcher, decent blocker and athlete as well.


Kyle Carter of Penn State might come out early as a RS SOPH, he is such a smooth pass catching tight end. Matt Lehman of Penn State is a very good player also and is a senior.


Andre McDonald of Kansas State, I love his size and blocking ability, will have to produce a little more on the field pass catching but he is an elite level blocker.


Nehemiah Hicks of Texas A&M, kind of lost in that offense with all those receivers, but he is a good talent and a good athlete, nice potential at the position just too bad he does not play for a more pro style offense.
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What do you guys value more in TE's - the ability to create separation or the ability to make contested catches?
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Create separation.

That usually means the TE is able to get open in the middle of the field which will bring in the safeties and take pressure off the WR's and open up the field for the RB as well.

Ability to make contested catches is awesome for the redzone, but I'd prefer the guys who can get open consistently. Takes pressure off of some many players on the offense.

That's why Gronk and Jimmy are the best - they are awesome at both.
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Definitely make contested catches. Separation in the NFL usually is body separation rather than actually having any ground in between players.
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Why wasn't Colt Lyerla put on defense? You have to be able to stop people from scoring, and you need athletes to do that.
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Make contested catches. Rarely will you see a TE matched up 1-on-1 at the LOS.

What happens when a TE loses is speed/quickness to separate? He'll always have the box-out ability. See: Tony Gonzalez.
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Why wasn't Colt Lyerla put on defense? You have to be able to stop people from scoring, and you need athletes to do that.
Oregon actually has guys who can stop people but i never got how they decided to move Lyerla to TE. For me he would be a near prototype 3-4 outside linebacker.
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I know all about ASJ and Lyerla, but what's the deal with this Eric Ebron guy? Seems to be getting a lot of buzz early in the process I don't know much about him. Can anyone fill me in
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Robcards I know all about ASJ and Lyerla, but what's the deal with this Eric Ebron guy? Seems to be getting a lot of buzz early in the process I don't know much about him. Can anyone fill me in
Eric Ebron was totally under the radar most of the season, but the kid can play. He can split out wide and be a pass catching threat at his size. He is your typical pass catching tight end, can go up and get the ball. He also is a surprisingly decent blocker, not a huge kid yet but he will block if need be, very hard to cover with his athletic ability. He is easily a top 5 tight end potentially in next years draft. If he was the same size as Austin Seferian-Jenkins he would probably be ranked above him but he does not have that great 6-6 or 6-7 height to him, still a damn good pass catching tight end.

Some might call Ebron a tweener, but I image he can put on 10 pounds or more if he needs to.
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