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Old 06-30-2013, 04:12 PM    (permalink
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Sg is by far the shallowest position in the NBA. By far.
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I don't agree that SG is the shallowest position. So what if Joe Johnson "gets **** on constantly"? I don't even know what you mean by that. If it means he gets criticized, so what? That's the vast majority of the NBA.
He means that even though we always say how Joe Johnson isn't very good, he still probably the 4th or 5th best SG in the NBA, thus showing how it is a very weak position overall.

It really wasn't that hard to decipher...
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So the depth of a position is proven by vague opinions on who you believe to be the "4th or 5th best" at his position? That doesn't strike me as a compelling way to prove the depth of a position in a 30 team league.
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No, the depth of the position in the league is pretty easily decided by the number of good players at the position. There are very, very few good shooting guards in the league. I don't know what point your trying to make, but just stop.
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Yeah, but McLemore takes it to the other extreme. He's the opposite of AI.
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He means that even though we always say how Joe Johnson isn't very good, he still probably the 4th or 5th best SG in the NBA, thus showing how it is a very weak position overall.

It really wasn't that hard to decipher...

Lol, yeah I thought it was pretty clear.

Who are the SG's that can even be considered legitimately good?

(not in order)

Kobe
Harden
Wade
Klay Thompson
Joe Johnson
Iggy if he you consider him a SG, I think he's more of a SF




Then you have guys that are super streaky like Jamal Crawford/Mayo/JR Smith, guys that are just okay like Hayward/JJ Redick/Kevin Martin, and guys that are one dimensional like Tony Allen.

I don't see how you can look at these names and possibly come to the conclusion that they "grow on trees."

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ROY picks gogogo!

Right now I'll say KCP. ROY usually goes to the top scorer and he can do that as well as anybody in this draft. He's also going to a team that is lacking a scorer who will take away a lot of shots from him and presumably he could start or at least get significant minutes early on.

I'd like to say Bennett but I think it may take sometime to find the right niche for him in the lineup. If Trey becomes a day one starter at PG for Utah he'll be a strong contender too.
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I'll take Trey Burke, I love his fit with the big men they have there and if the Jazz make the playoffs like I think they probably will that will help him a lot with voters.
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Jazz really should trade Al Jefferson though, they can easily roll with Kanter/Millsap/Favors with Rudy Gobert soon as well.
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Jazz really should trade Al Jefferson though, they can easily roll with Kanter/Millsap/Favors with Rudy Gobert soon as well.
I'm starting to think that there might not be as much demand for him as we all think there is because this has been the obvious move for a while now. If they could deal him for a solid SG/SF though they should definitely do it.
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I said "talented" shooting guards grow on trees, not 'good' SGs. Mclemore is talented, but he hasn't done a thing to prove he will join the ranks of 'good' SGs. If being a talented NBA prospect automatically means Mclemore will be good, the Bobcats wouldn't need a SG anyway. They already have Ben Gordon. I bet Ben Gordon got some Ray Allen comparisons when he was coming out.
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That we aren't allowed to talk about talent without also calling them a hall of famer. Or something. Who knows.
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Cody Zeller: David Lee (young David)
Ben McLemore: Allan Houston
Anthony Bennett: Carmelo Anthony (when in shape.)
Trey Burke: Chris Paul ... as much as I look for other guys to compare him to.. I can't get past Chris.
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I like Gobert, he's really raw right now, but his footwork is really nice and good on a pick and roll. With Malone training the big men over the summer he'll be in good hands. How does the Jazz keep getting big men I like?
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Trey Burke: Chris Paul ... as much as I look for other guys to compare him to.. I can't get past Chris.
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