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Old 07-02-2013, 12:12 PM    (permalink
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I don't think so. My major issues with Hudler were his skating and strength on the puck. Tatar could definitely improve his strength, but the kid has wheels. Also, from what I've seen, he goes to the net pretty damn hard for a guy his size. I think his potential is higher than Hudler.
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I think he could be Jiri Hudler 2.0, yes.

But there's still value in that type of player. You just want him while he's cheap and not on the 4 year, 16 million contract he got from the Flames approaching age 30.
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The Isles will pay DiPietro 1.5 mil for the next 16 seasons. That is really crazy to me.
Just like the Mets are paying Bobby Bonilla 1.1 million till 2035, hilarious stuff.

Today we find out if Seattle gets their team, or will Betteman bail them out and give them more time?
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tatar plays nothing like hudler. completely different players.
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My most extensive viewing of Tatar has been at the WJC years ago, I'm just trying to get a grasp on the expectations for him.
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tatar plays nothing like hudler. completely different players.
I was validating the comparison based on probable offensive production and career trajectory. Haven't seen enough of Tatar to make a style comparison.
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Holy Letang contract.
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Apparently Flyers signed Vinny to a 5 years 23,5 millions contract.

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The Flyers never learn. Must have a trade regarding couturier or something.
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Damn I wanted Vinny, not at that price but I wanted him on the Blues. The Blues need offense. Can't handle another season of scoring 1.3 goals per game.
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The Kings were asking for Couturier, wonder if we could have had him if we woulda waited them out...
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so what, 3 million over the cap with both buyouts already used?
I think it's 300K over the cap, and Pronger clears 5 million going on LTIR. Still need a starting goalie though. Not a good roster construction.
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Red Wings reportedly will buy out Carlo Colaiacovo's 1-year, 2.5 million.

They won't be buying out Todd Bertuzzi (little surprise here).

The lack of a buyout announcement on Mikael Samuelsson is very alarming though. His agent must be arguing that he remains hurt from the postseason and is therefore ineligible to be bought out. ****, ****, ****

Buying out Colaiacovo puts the Wings with 10.5 million in cap space. Need to re-sign RFAs Smith, Nyquist and Andersson. Brunner and Cleary are unsigned too.

I'm betting Holland is going to let us all down again and it's primarily because the Samuelsson contract (and his perpetual injuries) have come back to haunt us AGAIN.
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What do we think of Craig Custance's Top 35 free agent list?

http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/story...gents-rankings
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Who has espn insider nowadays.
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njx and Tim, Helene St. James from the Detroit Free Press just wrote in an article that Cleary could get a 3-year, $9 million contract. I almost fainted.

She also said Brunner will likely check in with an annual salary around $2.5 million, which is lower than I expected. I'd go as high as 3 years, $10 million for him probably.

But goddamn, if they re-sign Cleary at all, let alone for THREE YEARS (when he turns 35 in December), I will be pulling my hair out and yelling about the same of nonsense on here for the duration of the contract (and beyond).
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I can't understand the thought process behind that move. We're going to have 6 million on the cap next year for Samuelsson and Cleary. Not only that, but those guys will take away playtime from the younger players. I'm not too pleased
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I just can't fathom the 3-year deal aspect of it.

I can understand wanting to re-sign him for 1 year, both out of loyalty to Cleary and because he was good in the playoffs, but Holland has made this same mistake of locking up long-time Red Wings veterans for way too many years past their effectiveness.
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I will be sad if that happens.
I will be sad I never got to experience the great GM that Ken Holland was...or at least that I heard about in lore....
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Holland is overrated. His biggest successes came during an era of unlimited spending. Wings have unearthed some tremendous later round draft picks, but you'd have to credit the scouts and his assistants most for those acquisitions.

The last 3 years have demonstrated his unwillingness to adapt to the changing salary structure of the league and it has cost him. Some really terrible decisions to re-sign some players in recent years.

Holland is very good, but he hasn't been among the best GMs in hockey since 2008.
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Holland is overrated. His biggest successes came during an era of unlimited spending. Wings have unearthed some tremendous later round draft picks, but you'd have to credit the scouts and his assistants most for those acquisitions.

The last 3 years have demonstrated his unwillingness to adapt to the changing salary structure of the league and it has cost him. Some really terrible decisions to re-sign some players in recent years.

Holland is very good, but he hasn't been among the best GMs in hockey since 2008.
And I (as I have admitted before) didn't really start following NHL Hockey until 2010. ****.
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4 years, 15 million for Pascal Dupuis to return to Pittsburgh. Absolutely loves this.
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Pens returning the same team as last year. But will the goaltending improve? Pens will have major cap issues the following seasons. Haha
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Originally Posted by Xiomera View Post
I was validating the comparison based on probable offensive production and career trajectory. Haven't seen enough of Tatar to make a style comparison.
they are similar skating wise, but tatar is bigger, has a better shot, is better defensively, drives to the net, and is a lot more physical. i don't understand how detroit has kept him in the ahl as long as they have. he's going to be a solid 60+ pt. player in his prime. i think andrew ladd would be a good comparison before ladd really broke out this year.
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