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Cano took a fastball off the kneecap right away in the first inning. Gotta hope he doesn't miss time but it didn't look or sound good.
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does anyone know where I can find a website that streams the 2013 mlb all-star game for free online?
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Man that was the most awkward performance of Sweet Caroline ever.
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Man that was the most awkward performance of Sweet Caroline ever.
He's done it more than once in the last couple of years and he's been terrible each time. It's probably time to let it go.
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McCarver has ruined "Enter Sandman" for life.
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McCarver ruins everything. At least he's retiring.

What a boring ass all star game this has been.
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Why didn't they put in Nathan in the 8th? If he gives up 3+ runs you just put in Mo to get the last out in the 8th (and then hopefully finish the 9th).

Stupid.
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And who's gonna get MVP?

Mo, Kipnis, or Sale?

What a horrible game.
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The Mariano Rivera dick sucking was ridiculous. I have no respect for the position of closer so I suppose I'm biased but that was just over the top.
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The Mariano Rivera dick sucking was ridiculous. I have no respect for the position of closer so I suppose I'm biased but that was just over the top.
Yeah it got a bit ridiculous. I respect the hell out of Mariano, but I'm pretty sure Major League Baseball would have named him MVP even if he didn't see the field.

And what the hell was the 8th/9th inning **** about? "well uhh Mo gonna pitch the 8th just in case Joe can't hold a 3-run lead." What the **** is that? Rivera with the Hold? And why's he retiring? he could dominate with that pitch for another 10 years.
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Corbin with the loss :(

but Goldschmidt could have been 2-2 with 2 2B, stupid Machado
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McCarver ruins everything. At least he's retiring.

What a boring ass all star game this has been.
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The Mariano Rivera dick sucking was ridiculous. I have no respect for the position of closer so I suppose I'm biased but that was just over the top.
They gave him an ovation for like 5 minutes. Big deal. He's the greatest reliever of all time. You have no respect for the guy who shuts down the 9th? And a guy who did it like he did? Come on.

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Yeah it got a bit ridiculous. I respect the hell out of Mariano, but I'm pretty sure Major League Baseball would have named him MVP even if he didn't see the field.

And what the hell was the 8th/9th inning **** about? "well uhh Mo gonna pitch the 8th just in case Joe can't hold a 3-run lead." What the **** is that? Rivera with the Hold? And why's he retiring? he could dominate with that pitch for another 10 years.
They gave him MVP because guys got their RBIs on freaking ground-outs and sac flys. The only other option would be Sale who went 2 innings (but any pitcher could've gotten it) or Kipnis who went 1-1 with 1 RBI. They were hardly deserving. Thus, give it to Mo.

As for your second point - I already addressed it and agree with it. They should've had him in the 9th, worst case scenario Nathan gives up 3+ and he gets the last out of the 8th.

He's retiring on top. As it should be.

Jeez. It's baseball so it's a little different than the other sports but imagine if Michael Jordan was a stand-up guy... he got ovations like this also and he was a huge dick.

Mo's one of the all-time greats. He deserved the NY ovation.
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I checked out why Rivera got MVP this morning. None of AL players are MVP worthy. Sale gave us 2 clean innings with 2 k but the average is 1k an inning. Moore made the quickest inning with 9 pitches. Offensive scores are not that impressive as 2 out of 3 runs made by sac plays. Kipnis brought the runner in to put AL in a lead and AL held the lead all the way.

If MVP weren't only belonging to a winning side, Jose Fernandez would be my All Star MVP. 2k in 1 clean inning.



Rivera winning the All Star MVP is a political move as everyone SHOULD not give a damn.
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They gave him an ovation for like 5 minutes. Big deal. He's the greatest reliever of all time. You have no respect for the guy who shuts down the 9th? And a guy who did it like he did? Come on.
I'm talking about how they talked about him non-stop, said this All-Star game was all about Mariano Rivera, and then gave him the MVP for doing nothing. And no, I have little respect for closers. I have more respect for punters.

The closer is a contrived position that is just stupid. Baseball is all about matchups. Lefty specialists, pinch hitters, and all that jazz. Then you get into the 9th inning and all that goes out the window. And the save is stupid too. Come in with a three run lead and pitch one inning for the save? If you can't convert that at a high rate, you don't deserve to be in the Major Leagues.

And closers have a built in advantage. They face only a few batters. Unlike when facing a starter, hitters aren't given a chance to face him more than once in a game and pick up his tendencies. That is how many closers can get by with one pitch. Sure it is effective once but I feel that many closers would get rocked if they had to go through the order 2 or 3 times a game.

Long story short, I hate the closer, hate the save, and have no respect for either of them. Saying Mariano Rivera is the greatest closer of all time is like being the hottest girl at a fat chick camp and giving him the MVP last night was like giving the fat kid a trophy for finishing last in the 100-yard dash.
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Rivera pitching in 8th inning was a consecutive move. Rivera was guaranteed to pitch a full inning by Leyland. The erupting comeback is unheard.

Rivera agreed with Leyland's suggestion so questioning this move is meaningless.
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I'm talking about how they talked about him non-stop, said this All-Star game was all about Mariano Rivera, and then gave him the MVP for doing nothing. And no, I have little respect for closers. I have more respect for punters.

The closer is a contrived position that is just stupid. Baseball is all about matchups. Lefty specialists, pinch hitters, and all that jazz. Then you get into the 9th inning and all that goes out the window. And the save is stupid too. Come in with a three run lead and pitch one inning for the save? If you can't convert that at a high rate, you don't deserve to be in the Major Leagues.

And closers have a built in advantage. They face only a few batters. Unlike when facing a starter, hitters aren't given a chance to face him more than once in a game and pick up his tendencies. That is how many closers can get by with one pitch. Sure it is effective once but I feel that many closers would get rocked if they had to go through the order 2 or 3 times a game.

Long story short, I hate the closer, hate the save, and have no respect for either of them. Saying Mariano Rivera is the greatest closer of all time is like being the hottest girl at a fat chick camp and giving him the MVP last night was like giving the fat kid a trophy for finishing last in the 100-yard dash.
Well I can see why you didn't think he deserved to be talked about "non-stop."

Simply:

A) 9th-inning = high pressure in most cases. Most saves are not 3-run leads.
B) In Mo's case specifically, he did a lot of 6-out stuff and really earned his rep IN THE PLAYOFFS in the highest pressure situations imaginable. I agree with you to some extent about the value of closers across a regular season. But his playoff career is what makes him ridiculously special. I don't think anyone believes otherwise. And in the playoffs he's playing against the best teams.

More respect for punters? I think Closers have a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiitle more impact on team success than punters dude.

Fat chick dance?

Yikes.
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Saying Mariano Rivera is the greatest closer of all time is like being the hottest girl at a fat chick camp and giving him the MVP last night was like giving the fat kid a trophy for finishing last in the 100-yard dash.
Whoa, I think you have body dysmorphia or somethin.

Who gives a **** about who wins the All-Star Game MVP? I couldn't name more than 1 MVP of that game (I only remember Melky last year because of the bitching pre-game about him and other Giants being in the game ... and the steroids stuff).
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:29 AM    (permalink
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We're talkingabout ASG MVPs? Trade deadline is quickly approaching. Whos doing what and whos going where? I think Kendrys Morales could be a sneaky pick up.
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I don't really care about the MVP I was reacting to his disrespect for Mo as a player. Basically saying he's not an all-time great with is complete nonsense.

As for Kendrys - if he goes to the Yankees that could change their entire team. I also think he'd look good in Pittsburgh.

I don't view him as a sneaky pick-up - he'll probably be the best hitter traded at the deadline, maybe 2nd or 3rd if some real studs get dealt.
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If Morales becomes a hot commodity for July 31 trade then Yankees won't get him.
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Ask the Tigers about the importance of a quality closer. The Indians shouldn't even be this close. Rivera is and has been a great player.
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