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Old 08-08-2013, 01:34 PM    (permalink
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9th ranked DVOA D in 2012. And I think we can agree that when your offense is stalling, let alone turning it over at every turn, it affects your d in a big way. Teams also ran against them more than any team in the league - which negatively impacts a D in a big way also.

Middle of the pack in run D avg despite getting worn down with a hopeless offense and 6th in pass D.

It big potential with young studs along the DL.

Coples in his second year, Richardson, and Muhammad, who's becoming a star.

Losing Landry hurts, but they are strong at CB.

People questioned me when I said the Colts D would improve in 2012 simply because of Andrew Luck.

Well if the Jets offense can work just a little bit, the Jets D can be even better.
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Mallett's the only one of those I can't see happening. *shrug* All of the others I at least see as quite possible.
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Doug Martin will lead the league in rushing TDs.

The Eagles will be picking 1st in the NFL draft.

Colin Kaepernick suffers from a sophomore slump.

TB, PHI, OAK, ARI, JAX, CHI, and BUF all will be looking for starting QBs in 2014.
Martin is a stud.

No way the Eagles are worse than Jacksonville or Oakland.

I don't see Kaepenick slumping. And I hate him.

Those teams are all looking for starting QBs now.
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Ryan Fitzpatrick leads the Titans to the playoffs after Jake Locker is benched.
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I wish I as a Jets fan held as much optimism as some of you who say the Jets will make the playoffs....

1) San Diego makes the playoffs as the 6th and final wildcard team from the AFC and get to 9 wins.

2) Michael Floyd beats Larry Fitzgerald in TD's and REC's(But not yards)

3) The Colts take a dip down in wins, putting up a 6-10 year in Luck's 2nd year. Can't call whether its injuries(LaRon Landry defied logic by appearing in all games last year, don't know if he keeps that up in IND), Pagano maybe messing up a late game situation or two or if the talent just doesn't produce in year 2.

4) Mike Glennon because of a midseason injury to Josh Freeman comes in and deflates the Bucs chances of making the playoffs after a hot start off the gates by the Bucs. TB goes 7-9 and lose six of their final eight games.....enough to have Schiano in hot, hot water.

Hate the circumstances but as a Jets fan whose team gets the Bucs 3rd round pick(Unless Revis is cut before FEB?MAR), I'll take a bad year down in Tampa Bay for obvious reason(s).

5) Not sure how bold this is but there will be a call that ends the game that will be as bad if not WORSE than the GB/SEA conclusion of last year.....and this one will have a big say in an playoff race. I feel like we're due for another one of those god awful ref calls that will be the talk of the week after it happens.

Jets Homer Pick: WR Stephen Hill has a strong, healthy year 2 and is just shy of a Pro Bowl appearing year as he becomes the team's go to WR.
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Old 08-11-2013, 01:08 AM    (permalink
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The team went 6-10 last season and proceeded to lose a good number of useful veterans like Moore, Keller, Devito, Pouha, Revis, Landry, and Bell.

All things considered I was a fan of their offseason (sans Revis trade) considering the limited resources they had available to them. Colon, Barnes, and Ivory were solid pickups, and I really liked their draft, however their team has a comic amount amount of holes to the point where it looks like a late season roster before a single injury has even hit.

Their QB, RB, WR, TE, G, OLB, and Safety spots all have an argument for being among the worst positional groupings in the NFL. Even their D-Line which is supposed to be the strength of their team hasn't proven to be an elite unit yet in the NFL.

They're easily the least talented team in the division, and they have the biggest question mark at the QB spot. Who are going to be the guys winning games for them? Their best players are a LT, a C, a 5 Tech DE, and a CB. How are those guys going to win them the requisite 9-10 games they're going to need to make the playoffs?

Ivory and Holmes are already banged up, and no QB can improve a weapon if they struggle to catch the ball like Hill has.

Even if all of the strengths they're supposed to have work out, and a couple of things go right like Geno Smith starting and playing well it's still a stretch to see them being a playoff team.

The Jets seem to be heading in the right direction, but this is going to be a bad team this year.
Revis played in 2 games and he didn't finish the Bills game or the Dolphins game....so really 1 game. Keller barely played as he was hurt all year and did nothing worth note. Richardson/Ellis can be just as good as what Pouha/DeVito were and Milliner upgrades our corners as Wilson won't have to be as relied upon. The safeties are a drop down, I agree. DeMario Davis I have concerns about but he's quicker and a better locker room guy than Bart Scott. Ivory may not be reliable health wise but he alone blows anything Greene does. Hill/Kerley have another year under their belts.

We upgraded our offensive coordinator from Sparano to Marty....and no Tebow in and out of plays. That's huge.

That being said I think the Jets are a 6-7 win team....this team has more talent than last year. I can see them getting an extra win or two....don't know if its playoff bound. They'll be in the Wildcard race near the end though.
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I really think most of you are over-estimating the Jets defense a bit. For example Jets opponents averaged 340 yards a game and 22.5 points per game. Against the Jets they averaged 323 yards and 23.4 points per game. They had big issues stopping the run at times last season, and played some comically bad QB's. This isn't a great unit. It has some potential, but this isn't a Rex Ryan defense of old.
A **** offense that doesn't do its job on the field and puts the defense in bad situations(Sans Sanchez turnovers, 3 and out) will put a hurt on the defense.

The defense got younger though and the DLine has some very talented guys. I think you underestimate how good Wilkerson can be....he can have a 10-12 sack season this year if healthy. He gets lost in the shuffle since the year he was drafted(2011) had a lot of nice pass rushers go in round 1.

I actually like the defense....I just have concerns with the offense. Don't think its as bad as people make it out to be but don't think its going to be great either. The offense should be better than last year though....maybe even much.
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-Cam Newton cements himself as the best young QB(Kap, Luck, Griffin Wilson) as he leads the Panthers to a playoff spot.

-The Rams finish ahead of the Seahawks. 3 NFCW teams make the playoffs.

-Shane Vereen finishes Top 5 in MVP voting.

-Andrew Luck and RGIII stagnate as both of their teams miss the playoffs.

-Matt Ryan wins the MVP and leads the Falcons to a Super Bowl win v Cincy

-Buffalo makes the playoffs for the first time since the 99-00 season.

-Browns finish ahead of the Ravens and Steelers in the AFCN

-Tampa Bay finishes ahead of New Orleans

-Mark Sanchez has a respectable season. LOLOLOLOL!
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1: Everyone is predicting the Jets to flop this year, but led by Geno Smith and a top 5 defense they finish with at least 7 wins!

2: Oakland finishes 0-16.

3: Jermichael Finley leads TE's for receiving yards.

4: The Super Bowl champion Baltimore Ravens, don't make the playoffs.

5: Mike Vick stays healthy for at least 12 games and the Eagles make the playoffs.

Homer: Casey Hayward wins DPOY!
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Eli has 3 1000 yard receivers this year and the Wilson/Brown combo puts up around 2000 yards rushing/receiving.
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1. One of the early super bowl favorite teams loses their starting QB early on and end up picking in the top 10.

2. Alex Smith-Andy Reid combo win a playoff game their 1st season together.

3. Oakland Raiders finish with a .500 or above record.

4. Tim Tebow actually becomes a viable contributor to the New England Patriots.

5. Sanchez has more TDs then turnovers this year.

Homer Pick: Geno Atkins breaks Warren Sapp record of 16.5 sacks in a season for a DT.
16.5 sacks is not the record for most sacks by a DT. Keith Millard had 18 for the Vikings in 1989. Nest on the list I think is La'Roi Glover of the Saints who had 17 in 2000.
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13 Bold Predictions

1. Cameron Jordan gets 17 sacks, draws comparisons to Watt

2. Falcons go 9-7, miss playoffs

3. Tavon Austin disappoints, only catches 2 touchdowns on the season

4. Texans win the AFC, lose the Superbowl

5. Kenny Stills gains 1000 yards receiving, wins ROY

6. AFC East is won with a record of 9-7

7. Tom Brady goes two games without throwing a TD pass

8. Tony Gonzalez has his first game without a single catch

9. Bengals win AFC South, but fire Marvin Lewis

10. Teammates of Joe Flacco anonymously call him out for poor play, stirs controversy in Baltimore

11. Roger Goodell refuses to move Superbowl, game is played in blistery cold though no snow

12. Saints win Superbowl

13. Raiders get top pick after winning coin flip over the Jets
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That is an extremely bold prediction.
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1. Cameron Jordan gets 17 sacks, draws comparisons to Watt
Highly unlikely even though I would like to see it. The Saints really have no other good to great defensive linemen. Team could probably just double team Jordan, and thats assuming he takes the next step in his game.


5. Kenny Stills gains 1000 yards receiving, wins ROY
Again would love for this to happen but Brees has way to many weapons as it is. Colston and Graham will probably be the only players that get near or reach 1000 yards


9. Bengals win AFC South, but fire Marvin Lewis
Totally buy this if the Bengals don't win a playoff game.


12. Saints win Superbowl
With what defense? Their D is gonna get smashed so hard.
My bold prediction is that Brees gets hurt and the season goes down the drain. I would hate for this to happen but porous Oline with be Drew's death.
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My bold prediction is that Brees gets hurt and the season goes down the drain. I would hate for this to happen but porous Oline with be Drew's death.
I am failing to see the porous Oline. Is this based on the on sack Drew took in a preseason game where his starting RG (Jahri Evans--arguably best player at his position) was out and the backup surrendered the sack?

I think much is made of the defense. In 2011, the Saints defense was not stellar and they won 13 games. Same was true in 2009 when they won the Superbowl. That said, I think the defense will be improved. Preseason is preseason and can be full of smoke and mirrors. That said, the Saints have shown improvement in certain areas. They are first in sacks and most of that pressure has come from their D-line, namely Cam Jordan and Glenn Foster. They gave up a ton of yards against the Texans yet were stout in the redzone. The key from that game was they did not play hardly any 3-4 concepts. Instead they lined up in a 4-3 and played zone much the way they did last year, which is part of the reason they struggled. I think that is an overlooked aspect of last year historically bad defense--players were asked to perform in a scheme contrary to their skillset. When has Patrick Robinson been a zone CB? Greer? Why is Harper primarily lined up in coverage? So you promote a scheme that fits the players. The Saints have primarily run zone this preseason, sans the Raiders game where they mixed it up more and have been about as vanilla as one can imagine.

Do I think they light the world on fire? NO! But I think they will be improved in 3rd down efficiency, redzone defense, and scoring. And sure we can toss out preseason stats but tackling is tackling whether you scheme or not and the Saints have been one of the top tacking teams according to PFF this preseason. Last year, they were one of the worst if not he worst.

The other thing is much is made of injuries to players who were being pushed to the bench. Junior Galette and Martez Wilson are the Saints starting backers even if Will Smith was healthy. Kenyon Coleman was already being pushed by Akiem Hicks. Harper is not hurt but Kenny Vaccaro s expected to play a more prominent role. And with the reemergence of David Hawthorn and the solid play from Ramon Humber (who has adapted very well to the new 3-4 scheme), Vilma is likely headed to IR. Truth is, the Saints will field one of the youngest defenses and teams in the league this year. There will be growing pains but I would be shocked to see them surrender 400+ yards a game. If they are in that 350-375 yard range, the team will be successful. And don't discount Payton's return, which should help Drew cut down on turnovers, commit back to the run game, and keep the team from blowing significant 4th quarter leads as they did last season in 4 games. They were 7-9 with the worst defense ever and no commitment to the run. I think this season they will surprise a lot of people who tend to write them off based on last year's defensive performance.

Finally, you may be right on Stills but consider that no one saw Jimmy Graham having the season he did until he did. Drew will spread the ball around but I swear both he and Payton see something in Stills and I think he will get a lot of opportunities this season.
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1. Cameron Jordan gets 17 sacks, draws comparisons to Watt

2. Falcons go 9-7, miss playoffs

3. Tavon Austin disappoints, only catches 2 touchdowns on the season

4. Texans win the AFC, lose the Superbowl

5. Kenny Stills gains 1000 yards receiving, wins ROY

6. AFC East is won with a record of 9-7

7. Tom Brady goes two games without throwing a TD pass

8. Tony Gonzalez has his first game without a single catch

9. Bengals win AFC South, but fire Marvin Lewis

10. Teammates of Joe Flacco anonymously call him out for poor play, stirs controversy in Baltimore

11. Roger Goodell refuses to move Superbowl, game is played in blistery cold though no snow

12. Saints win Superbowl

13. Raiders get top pick after winning coin flip over the Jets
im ok with the bengals winning the AFC south
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Is it too late to take back my Jets prediction?
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3. Tavon Austin disappoints, only catches 2 touchdowns on the season

9. Bengals win AFC South, but fire Marvin Lewis

11. Roger Goodell refuses to move Superbowl, game is played in blistery cold though no snow


13. Raiders get top pick after winning coin flip over the Jets
3. I agree with this. I don't think Austin is going to be anywhere near as good as his lofty draft status would predict.

9. Three straight playoffs appearances and a cheap owner who won't want to pay two coaches at once? Not going to happen.

11. It will be cold in New York in February? How is that bold?

13. Raiders suck is not a bold prediction.
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2 TDs for austin woulnnt be surprising. But in amendolas role he could rack up a ton of catches
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Austin is such a smurf. I just don't see how he can be this dynamic force he's been touted as.

He's too small to take punishment in the middle of the field. I see a DJax like career as his ceiling, which can still be very good, but I don't think you can be as versatile with him as you want to be, bc he's just too small to take the kind of punishment a versatile slot takes.
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Ive literally never seen him get hit

I would have hated him on the steelers, but hes a perfect fit for the rams. i dont think he will disappoint, i imagine he will be a top notch PR guy and a good slot WR as a rookie
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That was college. Everyone in the NFL is fast.
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Some guys are just good at avoiding being hit...both fast and not so fast. Chad Johnson was probably really hit like 3 times in his career and i wouldnt call him exceptionally fast

Deseasn jackson has been really hit like twice, but the downside is the one nearly ripped his head off, which is the problem with tavon, he is so small

I think tavon will have a lot of 7-9 catch games (not unlike eddie royal did as a bronco his first few years), bradford loves the slot guy
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