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Old 08-27-2013, 05:57 PM    (permalink
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How does that work?

Losing Jason Kidd means losing 15 more games? wtf?
-Gaining Bargs, who is absolutely atrocious
-Losing Ronnie Brewer and Jason Kidd
-Other teams getting much stronger
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15 games because of those three factors (I won't even touch Ronnie Brewer)?

Ridiculous.
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Where do the middle 3 columns get populated from?
-Wins produced from all of the players on their roster last year
-Wins produced from all of the players on their roster the last three years averaged out
-Wins produced from all of their player on their roster in their best year of the last three
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15 games because of those three factors (I won't even touch Ronnie Brewer)?

Ridiculous.
Kidd is basically an advanced stats god, and they also lost Steve Novak, who was a net positive. You underestimate how bad Bargs is.
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No. I underestimate how bad Bargs was.

As I've explained a million times, the Knicks are deep enough that if he continues to play like he did in that **** situation for Toronto - a team that had no one - he won't play.

Advanced stats will show a much improved Bargs this year. Or he won't play.

So I don't view him as some overwhelming negative. He might not be a big positive - that's true.

But the Knicks aren't paying him for past performances. They are taking a chance on a bounce-back. Advanced stats are only taking into account the past few years and not what he could be.
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i accept those 13 wins, but the lakers should save the 12 wins for next year
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Bounceback from what? From being less ******? He's always been absolutely terrible, and the Knicks don't have that much depth. Kenyon Martin is 500 years old, Amar'e sucks and might as well be 900 years old, and I've run out of backup bigs.
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Can't wait for the Heat to **** on your high hopes ; )
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It's dependent on Deron, Bropez staying this good and the old players doing something.
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I have the Mavs winning 38-42 games. I guess the chart is close enough for them.
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So does T-Mac get into the HOF?
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I honestly am not sure if I've ever seen a worse offseason than the Lakers had.
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I honestly am not sure if I've ever seen a worse offseason than the Lakers had.
I think they sold out on Dwight and the backup plan was to tank for a lottery pick and use the plethora of cap space they will have next year. If they land it big in the draft they will have 3 superstars starting in 2014 (2 in FA + the draft).

No sense buying anyone they didn't see as a future superstar this offseason after they missed on Dwight or they will end up in the middling section of the draft rather than having a shot at a legit prospect.

Personally if their goal is to finish near/in the lotto section they need to offload Pau and put Kobe on the shelf for the year.
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I think they sold out on Dwight and the backup plan was to tank for a lottery pick and use the plethora of cap space they will have next year. If they land it big in the draft they will have 3 superstars starting in 2014 (2 in FA + the draft).

No sense buying anyone they didn't see as a future superstar this offseason after they missed on Dwight or they will end up in the middling section of the draft rather than having a shot at a legit prospect.

Personally if their goal is to finish near/in the lotto section they need to offload Pau and put Kobe on the shelf for the year.
They signed some of the worst players in the game (Nick Young, Wesley Johnson), a horrible big man (Chris Kaman), and amnestied an expiring Metta for no reason at all. They didn't amnesty Kobe when it probably would have gotten them Dwight (paying him $30.5 million this year is asinine). They have no depth, they're old and they play in a loaded conference.

Unless they sign LeBron next year, they're done for a while.
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I honestly am not sure if I've ever seen a worse offseason than the Lakers had.
see: 2004-2005

Traded for Chris Mihm and Chucky Atkins. Malone retires. Shaq leaves. Traded Caron Butler for Kwame Brown and Laron Profit. Hired Rudy T to coach. Kobe was demanding a trade lol

the few lone bright spots is that we drafted Andrew Bynum who, of course, isn't on the team and we lured Phil back to coach

and are Nick Young and Wes Johnson really the worst players in the game? come on now
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Will Kobe even be ready to play at the beginning of the season?
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If the Lakers land the 1st pick in the draft I'm going to be so pissed.
I know right.......that would be so awful. But rigging it so they get Wiggins would make Silver very happy prolly.
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Suns dump Caron Butler for Ish Smith & Viacheslav Kravtsov

your move 76ers
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