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Old 08-30-2013, 06:07 PM    (permalink
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With Nicks having a contract year do you think he's a good breakout candidate for fantasy purposes or will he not help himself and get hurt again?
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With Nicks having a contract year do you think he's a good breakout candidate for fantasy purposes or will he not help himself and get hurt again?
I don't think it has anything to do with contract. If healthy he's always been a stud, if not then he'll do well but miss some games here and there. I don't think he's going to push himself any harder than he ever has because he's a FA.
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Carr cut. Guess the team acknowledges that we're totally ****** if Eli goes down anyway, so might as well throw the kid out there and see if he can keep us from drafting Clowney.
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what went wrong with marvin austin? scheme-fit, lazy etc?
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what went wrong with marvin austin? scheme-fit, lazy etc?
when he was drafted he was already a year out of football. We hoped his raw skill would be molded for the NFL. Instead we saw flashes but nothing consistent. It's hard enough making it in the NFL. When you don't play 1 year and come into NFL football your chances are tougher. Not only do you need to get in shape quickly, but now you have to process more information and deal with NFL caliber players right away.

We saw flashes but nothing consistent and we went with hungrier veterans instead of high potential draft pick who has only flashed here and there.
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Austin also got hurt his rookie year to make that one year out of football two, and his work ethic wasn't the same as someone like Robert Quinn who managed to not lose much during his time off the field. Still curious whether Marvin's finally seen the light and manages to scrape together a career, but I disliked the pick at the time and I still have little faith in him making it with any team.
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I had a glimmer of hope for the guy after the 2nd preseason game. Maybe he was turning the corner. But I guess it was too little too late.

I never liked the draft pick. Honestly I hated it, I thought he was going to be a bust and he turned out to be just that.
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I had a glimmer of hope for the guy after the 2nd preseason game. Maybe he was turning the corner. But I guess it was too little too late.

I never liked the draft pick. Honestly I hated it, I thought he was going to be a bust and he turned out to be just that.
There are a lot of picks that have been purged from our roster.

No more..

Austin, Clint S., and now Barden. Can JJ be next in future seasons? Those picks have been big time swing and misses.
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when he was drafted he was already a year out of football. We hoped his raw skill would be molded for the NFL. Instead we saw flashes but nothing consistent. It's hard enough making it in the NFL. When you don't play 1 year and come into NFL football your chances are tougher. Not only do you need to get in shape quickly, but now you have to process more information and deal with NFL caliber players right away.

We saw flashes but nothing consistent and we went with hungrier veterans instead of high potential draft pick who has only flashed here and there.
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Austin also got hurt his rookie year to make that one year out of football two, and his work ethic wasn't the same as someone like Robert Quinn who managed to not lose much during his time off the field. Still curious whether Marvin's finally seen the light and manages to scrape together a career, but I disliked the pick at the time and I still have little faith in him making it with any team.
well i don't think him being a year out of football or being injured his rookie year is a valid reason his career hasn't taken off, b/c dez bryant missed a whole year of football and missed all of training camp his rookie year b/c he got injured the first week of camp, yet he was in the running for roy and he's becoming one of the best wr in the game. but a lack work ethic makes alot sense.
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well i don't think him being a year out of football or being injured his rookie year is a valid reason his career hasn't taken off, b/c dez bryant missed a whole year of football and missed all of training camp his rookie year b/c he got injured the first week of camp, yet he was in the running for roy and he's becoming one of the best wr in the game. but a lack work ethic makes alot sense.
Well Austin and Dez are two different people in life. You can't apply one personal reason and say because person B has no issues with that aspect of his life, that person A should be fine.

Clearly all these reasons were a factor otherwise he would be on the team. All the stuff mentioned in a previous post was a spot on. All that contributed to him getting cut this year. He showed flashes but never put it together. In the end we went with veteran players who flashed and have had a history of success in the NFL over a player with potential who never really put it together.
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I had a fantasy draft 10 team league (not PPR) and took David Wilson over Aaron Rodgers in Round 3. WTF was I thinking??? I ended up with Stafford/Vick. :P

David Wilson better light it up this year!!!

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I think he has the potential to be a big time home run hitter. We haven't hadd a RB like that since Tiki. I think he is a lot faster than Tiki too. So if Wilson sees daylight it's game over. Tiki, because of the high and tight, way of holding the ball could get caught from behind. Bradshaw, while very quick, got tackled from behind if it was a foot race too. Wilson's ability is something we fans haven't seen in a long while.
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Still silly to take him over Rodgers unless fantasy football works even sillier than I thought it did, but yeah, with brown out Wilson will get every opportunity to go nuts and his explosiveness is crazy.
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I think he has the potential to be a big time home run hitter. We haven't hadd a RB like that since Tiki. I think he is a lot faster than Tiki too. So if Wilson sees daylight it's game over. Tiki, because of the high and tight, way of holding the ball could get caught from behind. Bradshaw, while very quick, got tackled from behind if it was a foot race too. Wilson's ability is something we fans haven't seen in a long while.
I think Wilson could be a Tiki style of running back, but with blazing speed that Tiki never had.

Let's not forget it took Tiki a few years to come into his own. We drafted Tiki in the second round in 97. Just look at the RBs we drafted in 98 to2000.

What gets me is that the coaches keep on with how explosive Wilson is. He is going ro change how teams De fend agaibst us.
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Still silly to take him over Rodgers unless fantasy football works even sillier than I thought it did, but yeah, with brown out Wilson will get every opportunity to go nuts and his explosiveness is crazy.
QBs who produce well are very easy to find vs. RBs who produce well.
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In one league my WRs kick ass but my RBs suck, the other league my RBs kick ass but my WRs suck.

If they could join forces I'd have the greatest fantasy team ever.
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So with Brown out, Wells, Dwyer, Hightower, Grant and Kevin Smith are all apparently on the Giants radar. Wells and Dwyer have worked out for the team too. Dwyer wouldn't be a bad pick-up to help Wilson shoulder the load and Hightower would be a nice pick-up for passing downs to make up for what we lost in pass pro. from the RB position. I'd be fine with either one
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If Jacobs wasn't allowed to talk, I'd have no issue bringing him back.
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I don't mind his talking. We need some attitude.
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I think Wilson could be a Tiki style of running back, but with blazing speed that Tiki never had.

Let's not forget it took Tiki a few years to come into his own. We drafted Tiki in the second round in 97. Just look at the RBs we drafted in 98 to2000.

What gets me is that the coaches keep on with how explosive Wilson is. He is going ro change how teams De fend agaibst us.
Tiki had good speed, but fits the mold of a scat back. Once he became a full time back, and had more success TC era, he never was as fast. One example I remember was that Seattle overtime game. Tiki broke free and it was a foot race and he got caught from behind.

I am interested to see how he does this year now.
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I don't mind his talking. We need some attitude.

Attitude is fine, but a lot of his talking was about internal crap, and thats not the headlines we need. Call someone out for not working hard, I can get that. Whine about not getting the ball, classless.
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He is done and stinks. I want no part of him on this team. Let some other team pick him up if he has anything left in the tank. Clearly, no one thinks much of him now, and whatever currency he had he burned with his antics in SF.
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