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Old 09-09-2013, 07:15 PM    (permalink
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with that kind of aim who knows

realistically they would have died in the first 2 seconds
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Gomie really should've taken a headshot right at the beginning of the sequence. Could have kept up the drama with Hank still alive, but added to the realism. That said, this episode was still awesome.....edge of your seat stuff all the way thru.
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with that kind of aim who knows

realistically they would have died in the first 2 seconds
Not really, your first sentence explains exactly why. I think too many take their conception of shootouts from film or video games, and assume hitting your target is pretty much automatic in such scenarios. If the skinheads have actually practiced with their weapons and are good shots, then yes, Hank and Gomie should probably be dead. But access and the willingness to use weapons in no way implies actual skill with them. See pretty much every gangland shootout. We know that the skinheads know how to kill in prison, but shanking someone is very different from shooting someone. And given how all over the place we saw bullets landing, I think its actually more appropriate to assume they aren't very good shots at all.

When you factor in the distance between both sides, the automatic weapons and the fact that Hank and Gomie literally needed only a couple of steps before they were behind cover, them still being alive isn't surprising. The very first shot came from the automatic shotgun, not surprising at all that it didn't hit, and at that point Hank and Gomie were on the move and taking cover. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the shootout ends simply because Hank and Gomie don't have anything left to shoot.
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should just say it's not supposed to be realistic because the excuses are far fetched
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They had like 6 guys shooting....one of them should be dead.
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This bugged me the most



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This bugged me the most

Meh. There was nothing wrong with that at all.
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If everyone in here starts going all 'ESPN College Football Analysts on Clowney' on BB in here, I'm going to be pissed.
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I think Marie does go insane, but I think she does so by trying to poison Walt. Then it somehow goes wrong and she accidentally kills Skylar/maybe the kids.
I can't really see the George RR Martin ending to BB. I think that Hank and Walt die maybe Jesse but that's the last of it.
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There's no way Hank dies.

They wouldn't place that phone call there, abruptly end the episode, then have what everyone thinks is going to happen actually happen next ep.
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They had like 6 guys shooting....one of them should be dead.
I thought it was one of the more realistic shootouts I've seen on TV. Most of them had shotgun's or handguns, which even at that range are difficult to be accurate with, take into account the adrenalin rush and it's really not hard to believe. The one guy with what looked like an M4 probably should have been able to hit someone, but criminals and members of law enforcement typically aren't very good marksmen.
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I thought it was one of the more realistic shootouts I've seen on TV. Most of them had shotgun's or handguns, which even at that range are difficult to be accurate with, take into account the adrenalin rush and it's really not hard to believe. The one guy with what looked like an M4 probably should have been able to hit someone, but criminals and members of law enforcement typically aren't very good marksmen.
No, no, no, I've played Call of Duty and confirm that I can hit anyone from that range.
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it was like 60 feet away...
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Just throwing a thought out there that I just had...

Is there any way that Walt ends up being the only one left alive? In sort of a "Twilight Zone"ish twist. He has been doing all of these things to ensure that his family is taken care of when he is gone but, in the end, he is the only one left standing? The King of nothing. Probably not...

I just have a feeling that Skyler and Walter, Jr. end up dying. Would they kill the baby off? A great tragedy... Breaking Bad is never worth it. I don't know. Just typing my thoughts out. Feel free to ignore or point and laugh. It's all good.

Edit: I realized after posting this that you all have probably already discussed all (many?) ending possibilities. I'm late to the party having only recently started watching the show and I'm not going through 130+ pages of thread to see what already has, and has not, been discussed. Anyways, it is an amazing show and has been one hell of a ride. That's my theory on the ending.

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As for Berts pic of Walt in the car talking to Jesse. That didn't bother me too much because it was just Walt finally snapping on Jesse and telling him all the stuff he did for him when he is already seeing red from the pic he got sent.
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As for Berts pic of Walt in the car talking to Jesse. That didn't bother me too much because it was just Walt finally snapping on Jesse and telling him all the stuff he did for him when he is already seeing red from the pic he got sent.
I agree. Everyone has their weakness. Just like Gus. Jesse said he'd get him where he really lives. His money. The future of his family.
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it's getting down to combine time/draft time and you are all nitpicking. let's enjoy the ride, ladies, cause it's almost over.
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I wish Todd would've been introduced earlier. We didn't get enough of him.. He would've been great as one of Gus' guys.
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I think the exact opposite. Hank is one of the only people I really care if they live. I want Walt to die and the rest I could go either way on. Hank brining Walt down is how I want this to end.

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They wouldn't place that phone call there, abruptly end the episode, then have what everyone thinks is going to happen actually happen next ep.
I tend to agree with this line of thinking.
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I will be annoyed if Hank survives that.
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Hank won't survive. I think this is pretty clearly setting up for Jesse to be the lone survivor among the Walt/Hank/Jesse trio.

It's certainly the most interesting outcome, as leaving Jesse alive at the end would leave a sort of open-ended wonder for the guy that became the heart of the show in many respects.

If Gilligan's goal was to turn Walt from hero to villain, Mr. Chips to Scarface, then it's very cool to have in turn changed Jesse from the loser, druggie, fool he was in the start of the series into who he is now toward the end.
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don't know if this has been discussed yet but saul goodman spinoff!
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Old 09-11-2013, 09:15 PM    (permalink
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I think the exact opposite. Hank is one of the only people I really care if they live. I want Walt to die and the rest I could go either way on. Hank brining Walt down is how I want this to end.
So you think Hank somehow escaping this entirely would be a good thing?
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Jesse being the lone survivor would be pretty funny considering he was originally going to be killed off in season 1.
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