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Old 09-18-2013, 02:27 PM    (permalink
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Well Goldsons appeal went through and he is playing against us. Lame. I think this game will be eerily similar to last week. Again, I could see us losing this one if we come out on offense like we did last week, but who knows, its the NFL.
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I think this game is much scarier that last week's. Freeman is shooting himself in the foot in a contract year but he, and the entire Bucs O, represent a far more polished talent/team than the Jets put on the field. Ultimately, this team has better talent at nearly every position and is a very good 0-2 squad. We need to see a big jump in the level of play from last week or this one is a loss.


As an aside, I think Shiano is coming into the league with an attitude comparable to the "old" Tom Coughlin and will struggle to get consistent performances b/c he is too difficult for players to deal with on a weekly basis.
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For what it's worth, it's interesting that Amendola is practicing(albeit on a limited basis) despite the apparent severity/worsening of the prognosis. Hopefully that's a good sign, but it's still tough to envision him coming back before the middle of October at the very earliest. From what I've read, anyway.

Sudfeld is also listed as a full participant in practices. We'll have to see if he finds some traction in our offense. Even if he's not up the the standard we're used to with tight ends, something up the seam would really help us out right now. Some pressure off of Gronk returning sooner than he should be would be fantastic as well. We'll see though. He obviously wasn't a priority to have out there against Buffalo, even before the drop.
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This piece by Pete Pricso is heartening. One of our Achilles heels has been the inability to beat press coverage, but as this piece illustrates, the rookies seem capable of that. It would certainly be exciting if that potential grows to fruition.
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I think that was the only thing keeping me from ripping hair out over their performance, was the fact they were getting open deep off the line. Now if they could just catch the damn ball.
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I think there's something to that for sure....but I'm just not sure that I'm as impressed as the writer came away with. It's true that we've been pitiful at getting receiver open downfield and against press...but I'm not sure that that I'm coming away as bullish as the Prisco did.

To me, generating separation and getting off the line against press are minimum qualifications for being an average NFL receiver. With how nuts passing stats are right now, there's really not room in the league for guys who can't do that....unless you're a fantastic route runner/system player like the guys we've preferred over the years.You can make the argument that even average outside receivers would be an upgrade over what we've been used to dealing with here over the past few years. You would probably be correct in doing so as well. We haven't exactly lacked for production in the passing game either, we just needed to shift that production to more areas of the field. I'm pretty sure that the guys we've brought in can eventually do that, at the very least. It just remains to be seen if that's all we need them to be with Welker's depature, Henrandez's homicides, and Amendola's/Gronk's health issues.
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Just in case anyone is interested, here's my preview of this week's game for NEPatriotsDraft:

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2013/...to-week-3.html

Very nervous about this one. Our run defense is struggling and we're playing Doug Martin, we couldn't cover Vincent Jackson at all the last time we played him, their defensive front is creating lots of pressure, we currently have one reliable receiver and they have Darrelle Revis, and coaches close to Belichick typically play New England well. I wouldn't be surprised at all to lose this week.
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Great write up, Matt.
Let's hope for some turnovers and TB mistakes, otherwise yeah, could be a long day.
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According to Mike Reiss, Rob Ninkovich has signed a three-year contract extension through 2016. Consider me a fan as long as we're not paying him like a premier pass rusher or something. Consistent, versatile guy who we could realistically play as a defensive end on a four-man line or as an outside linebacker in either front. Here's some stuff from ProFootballFocus re. Ninkovich's past four seasons (for some reason, their sack numbers don't include half-sacks and don't match ESPN/NFL):

2009 (3-4 OLB): 127 snaps, 1 sack, 1 hit, 6 pressures

Overall +3.0, Run +1.7, Rush +0.7, Coverage +0.1

2010 (3-4 OLB): 573 snaps, 4 sacks, 5 hits, 17 pressures

Overall +4.9, Run +0.7, Rush +4.5, Coverage -1.3

2011 (4-3 SLB): 1,126 snaps, 9 sacks, 8 hits, 35 pressures

Overall +12.0, Run +12.2, Rush +0.5, Coverage -0.2

2012 (4-3 LE): 1,076 snaps, 10 sacks, 8 hits, 32 pressures

Overall +10.0, Run +8.1, Rush -2.6, Coverage +1.0

Any speculation regarding the terms of the deal?
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I hope it's like a 3 year version of the Arrington contract. $4 million per sounds about right for Ninkovich though I suspect it'll be higher. He's a perfect guy in a 3 man DE rotation. If Buchanon or Collins can grow into more of a pass rush specialist that would be a very nice platoon.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/97...le-source-says

Browns are reportedly shopping Gordon and Little. Gordon is an awful fit for us offensively with Brady's deep ball being inconsistent lately, being a character risk with all that has recently happened, and being rather unpolished himself, but still he's an elite talent with 3 years remaining on a rookie deal, and he'd probably be the best outside receiver we have had since Moss. I'd part with a second for him considering our awful record in the 2nd, and our desperate situation at receiver currently.

Also, the article doesn't mention if they're shopping Bess too, but I'd imagine everyone is on the table, and Bess would be a great fit considering our present situation.
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I'd take that in a heart beat for sure. I think we make a move if we struggle offensively again this game and lose.
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Supposedly 3 years, 15M with 8 guaranteed. Consider me a fan. He's become a very important player for our defense over the years. I was skeptical of what he would be able to do as an every down defensive end, but he's really answered the call there. It's always interesting how much it actually counts for(although I think lately we could stand to have more of it), but Ninkovich appears to be an asset in terms of locker room presence and leadership as well.


As far as Browns receivers go, I would be interested in Bess the most, but I wouldn't mind Gordon if the price was right either. His issues are far more mild than someone like Britt's and he has a similar level of raw ability. Little's height/weight/speed in interesting. He would be a pretty awesome receiver if he didn't suck at everything else. Easy pass there. Bess would obviously be a fantastic get. His cap number may be a little bit high for our tastes....but we'll see.

Anyway, no rocking out with our Gronks out today. Next week looks likely.
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Well this is sad....

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Oh boy. Watching the game on tape delay but this isn't looking good.
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Very pleased with the game so far. It's not perfect, but it's progress.
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The 1st quarter was brutal, but marked improvement after that. Dobson is so close to being good. But nice to see both the offense coming together and the defense making a couple critical stops.
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Great move by Chandler Jones on that sack. He just beat Donald Penn like it was nothing.
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It was hardly as crisp as it needs to be if we're going to make a playoff run, but it's hard not to walk away feeling encouraged by most of what we saw.
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Brady didn't play exceptionally well, but lots of encouraging progress. Nice to win as we figure this out.
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Yeah, that's worth noting as well. The miss to Dobson in the endzone was a very, very poor throw.
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Will the Giants trade us Nicks yet? lol
I'd imagine that Nicks and Kenny Britt could be had for a reasonable price. Neither one are playing worth a ****.
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One thing I noticed watching the game live; we seemed to simplify the offense a bit for the receivers. Seemed to be far more vanilla than we're used to around here, but that approach certainly seemed to pay off against the Bucs. We really needed to hit the reset button and focus more on easing the guys we have into it. I think we did a good job with that this week. Hopefully things ramp up a bit as the season goes on, but the receivers played a far more effective game against a better defense than they faced last week.
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Brady didn't play exceptionally well, but lots of encouraging progress. Nice to win as we figure this out.
I've told friends this... We should be glad Gronk and Amendola are hurt right now. Injuries have always been a strength for the Pats as new players step up to fill roles and become better players overall. So when the other guys come back from injury, the team as a whole is a lot more experienced and capable. It used to be how they kept churning out strong defensive backfields, but now it seems to be working at a very convenient time for their young receivers.

Better to struggle now than later...and it's not like they aren't winning despite the struggles.
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