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Old 10-09-2013, 09:59 AM    (permalink
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RB's are a dime a dozen. What are we going to do with both Wilson and Tate next year?

If no one wants to give up that much for Nicks then we keep him and try to make a run next year. It's the NFL you can rebuild in a year.
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RB's are a dime a dozen. What are we going to do with both Wilson and Tate next year?

If no one wants to give up that much for Nicks then we keep him and try to make a run next year. It's the NFL you can rebuild in a year.
Yeah, but he's gonna be wanting silly money compared to he's worth. He'll be looking at the cruz contract and say that's not enough, he's "just" a slot reciever. I honestly see no possible way he stays here next year, so I would rather trade him for the best pick we can get for next season. It also helps us lose as many games as possible this season.

But I understand your reasoning behind not wanting to trade for a running back, unless it's Adrian Peterson.
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We have no idea how much he's going to ask for. If he does ask for too much than Reese deems he's worth then yeah we'll let him walk. It's not like Nicks can point to this great production the last year and a half though.
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If he gets a huge contract then we get the comp pick. He's worth keeping around if we can manage it. Remember DeSean pulled the same stunt with Philly 2 years ago and he's been great since he got paid.

I see Nicks situation playing out the same way.
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If he gets a huge contract then we get the comp pick. He's worth keeping around if we can manage it. Remember DeSean pulled the same stunt with Philly 2 years ago and he's been great since he got paid.

I see Nicks situation playing out the same way.

About the comp pick, that's a good point, hadn't thought about that. He will probably get a huge contract in FA, so if we decide to trade him we shouldn't accept anything less than a high third round pick.
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Do y'all really think Nicks will get a huge contract in FA? Between the injuries, the jogging and the poor season I see a lot of teams hesitating on handing him huge money. Which is why ultimately I think he'll be back even if he tests FA.
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I think he will. Bowe got one. DeSean got one. Nicks should get one. Someone will gamble on him.
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I just see him "settling" for something around what Cruz got, maybe even less, because only the most desperate of teams are offering him more in FA.
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Someone will make the mistake of overpaying for past production rather than future production on their investment in him. I can see Dave G., the Panthers GM, making a hard push for Nicks. Bring him back to his home state and have him be opposite Smith.
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Nicks is going to Carolina.

I've settled on Moore JPP and Clowney being the next strahan Osi and tuck so it's cool
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Clowney is going to the Raiders. When we beat them, they will be ahead of us. If we lose to them, then who knows. But I don't see us losing to them unless we are THAT bad.
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The Raiders have 2 more wins than us. We have no place to predict who we are going to beat until we show we're not a pathetic team on Sunday.
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SD and Tenn maybe.. 4 wins total?

We will see if we can beat them. I think when it's all said and done we will be a pick or two behind them.
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Clowney is going to the Raiders. When we beat them, they will be ahead of us. If we lose to them, then who knows. But I don't see us losing to them unless we are THAT bad.
I could see Pryor tearing us up with his legs and us losing that game pretty easily.
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I could see Pryor tearing us up with his legs and us losing that game pretty easily.
I mean I wouldn't put it past us to lose that game. That's a game I think we can win. If not, then maybe we go 0-16. I highly, highly doubt it though. I think we win against Oakland AT METLIFE too. So, I expect that game being our 1st win.
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I want us to go 3-13 so we firmly secure the #2 pick in the draft. Let's face it, Jacksonville has the #1 pick on lock. They might be the 2nd 0-16 team in NFL history, they're awful.

3 wins gets us the 2nd pick bc of strength of schedule.
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I want us to go 3-13 so we firmly secure the #2 pick in the draft. Let's face it, Jacksonville has the #1 pick on lock. They might be the 2nd 0-16 team in NFL history, they're awful.

3 wins gets us the 2nd pick bc of strength of schedule.
Me too, but let's see how it plays out. I think a lot can happen to expect the # 2 pick. I am thinking top 5, but won't settle on where in the top 5
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SD and Tenn maybe.. 4 wins total?

We will see if we can beat them. I think when it's all said and done we will be a pick or two behind them.
NYJ and Pitt too. I could see the Raiders with as many as 6 wins this season
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NYJ and Pitt too. I could see the Raiders with as many as 6 wins this season
I thought of the Jets but their D is holding them in games. if they can stay close, they can beat the Raiders. I think Pitt can get Oakland, and maybe the Browns. They play the Jets too. So I don't know it's hard to see. I think it will be very close.

Only sure thing is the Jags schedule. I don't think they win a single game.
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Guys I know there has been much consternation with your OL. PFF ranked the 1st Quarter OLs. Time to dump Will Beatty.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...first-quarter/
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Yes they should totally dump Will Beatty just cause pff said so.
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Yes they should totally dump Will Beatty just cause pff said so.
Hey, he could always pull a Doug Free. PFF said he sucked too, but he turned it around. At least you have faith. Gotta admire that. I didn't have it with Free.
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Guys I know there has been much consternation with your OL. PFF ranked the 1st Quarter OLs. Time to dump Will Beatty.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...first-quarter/
Meh, Beatty was phenomenal last year, and while he's struggled some this year legitimately, I can't really fault him for not playing his best when the interior OL is getting dominated so thoroughly on every snap and Myers may be the worst blocking TE i've seen wear a giants jersey in Eli's tenure. Plus this team lacks the fight they've had in past years, if that's coughlin's message wearing out, guys like Tuck, Snee and Diehl just growing too complacent, or whatever, I don't know, but there's a lot wrong with now before we get to throwing out the pieces that are worth regrouping around.

And Beatty and Pugh are two huge pieces for us to bounceback next season because they lock up 2 starting OL spots. Filling 3 OL spots when you've already got two good starters is a lot more manageable of a task. Go after 1 high end starter that we'll have the money to go with all fo the dead weight that gets cut, either bring in a solid but aging vet or hold onto to Boothe, and then grab a guard or center in the second round. If all we had was Pugh we'd still suck up front next year no matter what, with Pugh and beatty we at least have a chance to get this **** sorted out.
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Basically up to this point of the season anything that could go wrong has gone wrong. Some guys will turn around their play.
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