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One injury and suddenly the Julio trade was a bust all along, despite the fact that he turned into a top 5 receiver.

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Whoa whoa...now Julio is a bust?

Really? C'mon guys.
Did you guys see who wrote that post..?
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Julio is agreat player, and it was a great trade in that sense, but did it really take the offense to new heights as a player of his caliber should? I dunno. The thing is, if they kept their picks, they probably miss on more than half, so it was definitely a quality trade.
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One injury and suddenly the Julio trade was a bust all along, despite the fact that he turned into a top 5 receiver.

Ok.
No one can question whether Julio was worth his draft position, but the question remains whether a "top 5 WR" is worth trading up for. Atlanta needed to acquire weapons, but they sacrificed the ability to build other areas of the team through the draft to do so. They put all their eggs in that "top 5 WR" basket.

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Julio puts up amazing stats and is unstoppable: brilliant trade.

Julio gets freak foot injury: I think we need to re-evaluate the trade.

Are you serious? It was 100% a great move. It was a great move at the time, and it's been a move that has paid off. Without Julio Jones, the Falcons struggle to make the playoffs the last couple seasons if they're lucky.
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Best week in Georgia sports history?

Falcons lose to bad team at home and Julio hurt

UGA loses multiple good players to injury

Braves...well everyone knows what the Braves are gonna do every postseason, so it's not a surprise or anything.
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Ok so this isn't good.

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A Falcons source tells the National Football Post's Jason Cole that Julio Jones (foot) "broke the screw that was put in his foot in his 2011 surgery."

We're not doctors, but it can't be good news that Jones' injury is (reportedly) related to the foot operation that clouded his pre-draft status in 2011. It would complicate any further surgery, and have the makings of a chronic issue. Jones is receiving a second opinion on Wednesday, where hopefully we'll learn more. Nothing will be for certain until/if Jones lands on injured reserve, but things are not looking good.
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Pretty much. I lost him in 2 leagues here with my fellow dc chums. Including the 20 team one... that's gonna be hard to overcome.
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Ok.
Hahahahah seriously. This board is good for a laugh quite a bit. Even more funny that people want to use hindsight even more so now. Remember after the deal how many people tried to say "they could have gotten Greg Little in the 2nd plus all these guys". Now since Little sucks we can substitute him for a few guys that are studs to say it didn't work out. Falcons weren't winning the SB regardless of whether they traded up or drafted a bunch of players with that pick, they are far better off with 1 of the best WR's in the league.
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Best receiver in football.

Oh well.
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just saw he is officially going under the knife after getting a second opinion...goodbye falcons season.
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Best receiver in football.

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Incorrect.
My favorite (non-Packer) receiver in football, but terms of pure greatness:

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One injury and suddenly the Julio trade was a bust all along, despite the fact that he turned into a top 5 receiver.

Ok.
Julio himself isn't a bust but it was a bad deal for the Falcons.

The Falcons would be a better team if they had hit on more players at more important positions (like DL and OL) with all of those picks instead of blowing them all on a single WR, no matter how good that WR is.

Fact of the matter is that in the NFL OL and DL are more important than having a star WR, and it's showing for the Falcons.

They don't have anyone who can rush the passer consistently except for older Osi who is very boom-or-bust and bad vs. the run, and they don't have any good OL to protect Ryan either. If they had hit on some DL/OL with any of those Julio draft picks they might be a contender still.

The offense would be better without Julio but *with* good OL instead.

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Julio himself isn't a bust but it was a bad deal for the Falcons.

The Falcons would be a better team if they had hit on more players at more important positions (like DL and OL) with all of those picks instead of blowing them all on a single WR, no matter how good that WR is.

Fact of the matter is that in the NFL OL and DL are more important than having a star WR, and it's showing for the Falcons.
yes if they woulda known Julio was gonna go down with a season-ending foot injury in his third year, they wouldnt have traded up for him.

Coming into this season, I dont think anyone would dare question the Julio trade. It was looking great last year when they nearly went to the Superbowl behind their dominant offense, which was working great with Julio emerging as the perfect complement to Roddy.

But the problem with the Falcons this year isnt a lack of picks. Its two things 1- injuries, 2- missed picks....They spent high picks on Peter Konz and Lamar Holmes to get their OL going strong, Sam Baker too....Theyre all sucking. Periah Jerry was a first rounder, he never lived up to his billling. Weatherspoon, first rounder who is really good but cant stay healthy...then you throw in Jackson getting hurt, Roddy playing gimpy, biermann injury, samuel injury, sam baker on and off the field..thats what the problem is...not that they gave away too many picks for Julio, who was keeping the team competitive in spite of all the injuries by having a sensational year. the fact that the Falcons season is officialy done b/c of the Julio injury is proof of just how good of a trade it was, b/c Julio was exactly the game-changer they were looking for....it was working well, but the team broke down around him this year, and then he got hurt. but how can you prepare for a rash of injuries like that? I dont think any team could withstand one like this.
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yes if they woulda known Julio was gonna go down with a season-ending foot injury in his third year, they wouldnt have traded up for him.
Even if Julio never gets injured I still wouldnt' make the trade. It's that "one player away" philosophy that always comes back to kill teams in the end.

NO TEAM in the NFL is "one player away". It just doesn't work that way. Every team in the NFL is basically even with every other team in terms of talent and rosters fluctuate constantly year-to-year in the NFL.

You have to be refereshing your roster every single year with new DL and OL to stay on top. You can't just assume that because last year your OL and DL played well that they'll play well with the exact same guys next year.

You have to be bringing in new DL and OL EVERY single year for competition and depth or your team will regress just like the Falcons have - their OL and DL are subpar now and they don't have young guys from recent drafts to provide depth and competition.



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Coming into this season, I dont think anyone would dare question the Julio trade. It was looking great last year when they nearly went to the Superbowl behind their dominant offense, which was working great with Julio emerging as the perfect complement to Roddy.
I think they would have a had a good offense even without Julio. QBs and OLs make the WR productive and not the other way around.

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But the problem with the Falcons this year isnt a lack of picks. Its two things 1- injuries, 2- missed picks....They spent high picks on Peter Konz and Lamar Holmes to get their OL going strong, Sam Baker too....Theyre all sucking.
Periah Jerry was a first rounder, he never lived up to his billling. Weatherspoon, first rounder who is really good but cant stay healthy...then you throw in Jackson getting hurt, Roddy playing gimpy, biermann injury, samuel injury, sam baker on and off the field..thats what the problem is...not that they gave away too many picks for Julio, who was keeping the team competitive in spite of all the injuries by having a sensational year. the fact that the Falcons season is officialy done b/c of the Julio injury is proof of just how good of a trade it was, b/c Julio was exactly the game-changer they were looking for....it was working well, but the team broke down around him this year, and then he got hurt. but how can you prepare for a rash of injuries like that? I dont think any team could withstand one like this.
They missed out on a lot of picks that could have provided depth and competition along the OL and DL. They wouldn't be in the spot that injuries are killing them to this extent if they instead had drafted OL and DL with the Julio picks.
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My favorite (non-Packer) receiver in football, but terms of pure greatness:

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I just can't help but hold the fact that Calvin is 6'5" against him. It's like cheating.
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Even if Julio never gets injured I still wouldnt' make the trade. It's that "one player away" philosophy that always comes back to kill teams in the end.

NO TEAM in the NFL is "one player away". It just doesn't work that way. Every team in the NFL is basically even with every other team in terms of talent and rosters fluctuate constantly year-to-year in the NFL.

You have to be refereshing your roster every single year with new DL and OL to stay on top. You can't just assume that because last year your OL and DL played well that they'll play well with the exact same guys next year.

You have to be bringing in new DL and OL EVERY single year for competition and depth or your team will regress just like the Falcons have - their OL and DL are subpar now and they don't have young guys from recent drafts to provide depth and competition.





I think they would have a had a good offense even without Julio. QBs and OLs make the WR productive and not the other way around.



They missed out on a lot of picks that could have provided depth and competition along the OL and DL. They wouldn't be in the spot that injuries are killing them to this extent if they instead had drafted OL and DL with the Julio picks.
Like I said, they brought in new guys, the new guys didnt work out. I dont believe there is a team in this league that could have sustained a rash of injuries like what the Falcons have dealt with this year. The Falcons gave up two late first rounders, a second rounder, and two fourth rounders for Julio. Lets imagine they kept those picks and 2 or 3 of them become quality starters. Do you really think things would be any different for the Falcons right now?


Better yet, if Julio was still healthy, is it at all likely that those 2 or 3 players they got would be making a bigger impact than the one superstar? The Falcons were on the cusp of a SB last year, and Julio was making a big impact. He was the last piece of the puzzle for that passing game. Him, Roddy, Tony and Matty were perfect together. This year, the OL fell apart, and it was mostly b/c a number of guys they spent high picks on were underperforming, not b/c they were starting a bunch of UDFA b/c they had no picks.
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With those extra picks (quite a few of them) I would have picked DL in that 2011 draft (Cameron Jordan, Muhammed Wilkerson or Phil Taylor all were available to the Falcons with their 1st round pick) and OL later in that draft and then OL/DL the 2012 draft (Riley Reiff, Kevin Zeilter, David DeCastro with the 1st). And that doesn't even factor in all of the 2nd and 3rd round picks they could have used on other more important positions like OL/DL/DB to shore up their defense and offense.

I am confident that if they had done that, they would be a contender for the NFC South title this year because then they could actually compete on the line of scrimmage.
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With those extra picks (quite a few of them) I would have picked DL in that 2011 draft (Cameron Jordan, Muhammed Wilkerson or Phil Taylor all were available to the Falcons with their 1st round pick) and OL later in that draft and then OL/DL the 2012 draft (Riley Reiff, Kevin Zeilter, David DeCastro with the 1st). And that doesn't even factor in all of the 2nd and 3rd round picks they could have used on other more important positions like OL/DL/DB to shore up their defense and offense.

I am confident that if they had done that, they would be a contender for the NFC South title this year because then they could actually compete on the line of scrimmage.
you cant just go and take the best players they could have had with those picks, and assume thats who they would have taken. And go check the trade details, they didnt give up as large a bounty of picks as you would have believed. It wasn't RG3 status.

But look at all the high picks the Falcons have spent on guys theyre not getting much out of: Lamar Holmes, Peter Konz, Sam Baker, Sean Weatherspoon, Periah Jerry, Akeem Dent, Corey Peters...if anything it would be fair to assume their front office would have picked some more busts, the problem hasnt been the lack of draft picks, its the lack of finding quality players with those draft picks...throw in the Roddy injury, the Bierrman injury, the assante injury, the stevenjax injury...its easy to see why this team is struggling
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you cant just go and take the best players they could have had with those picks, and assume thats who they would have taken.
That's what people do around here, makes the argument so easy. Anytime someone trades multiple picks, you've always got the guys who come out and pick the best players from that entire round and talk about how that would have been their scenario instead. Just like Cleveland didn't need RGIII or Julio, they got a ton of much better players instead with all those picks right? But I guess for some people it makes them feel like it's actually an argument by picking and choosing the best players and magically putting them all onto one draft.


Let's ignore teams draft 1st round picks that hardly ever impact a game the way those players do, like Jamaal Anderson or Peria Jerry. But D-line=division champzzz.
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