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Old 10-11-2013, 02:21 PM    (permalink
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I find this an interesting topic, not because of how we didn't trade up and mortgage our future for RG3 (though it is interesting because Holmgren "offered his whole draft for the #1 pick, but apparently didn't want the black jesus at QB, fat walrus/racist), but because of how bad the Browns are at being bad.

I brought up how awful we have been at obtaining elite talent in the draft, in the draft forum... but in all reality, we have been the kings of beating just enough ****** teams BARELY to not land the players that best suit our needs and are good.

Look at this schedule from 2011... - http://www.nfl.com/schedules/2011/REG/BROWNS

We won 4 games, 3 of which we probably shouldn't have won. I know for a fact we won in the last seconds against Miami on a corner route to Cribbs I think that was actually a pretty nice grab and completely un-Brownslike (MARK ONE LESS WIN).

Jacksonville had the ball near our goal line with time expiring (Blaine Gabbert inexplicably through a 100 mph fastball through the endzone killing 3 Browns fans). If god wasn't on vacation Gabbert would have miraculously thrown a completion or the Jags would have just let MJD run the ball down our throat (I don't even need to look up the stats to say our rush defense was probably in the bottom quarter of the league, they generally have been awful). MARK THAT PUPPY UP AS ANOTHER LOSS.

Also, the 6-3 Seahawks game QB'd by Charlie Whitehurst was one of the, if not the worst Browns game I have ever seen. Once again, completely un-Brownslike, we hold a team to 3 point and probably had plenty of chances to blow it but the stupid Seahawks wouldn't take advantage of our awfulness (I think Jackson was out for this game? We lose this one if anyone besides Chris Perez clone is not starting the damn game.) 1-15 HERE WE COME.

We also failed miserably by beating the Colts, if we lose that game we end up 3-13 as do the Colts, leaving one team forced to trade a kings ransom for the #1 pick and Luck (Could you imagine if the #2 team traded up to #1 for Luck, then the Rams at #2 traded down to Washington and got the same haul they did for RG3? Holy ****).

Having said that, if we end up at 1-15 or 2-14 (which we probably should have) how much better is this team with one of those 2 QB's? Not just factoring in the obvious... But we would have been able to use #22 on a different player not name Braylon Weeden (Kendall Wright was gone, so who knows what) and if we ended up with RG3 there is a strong chance we would have still taken Gordon in the supplemental draft.

Instead, we got Richardson, traded him for a low end first round pick, and ended up drafting Weeden at #22, someone who is 90% likely to be gone after this year. The Browns are even bad, at being bad.

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My first instinct is to say they would be much much better.
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They would probably be significantly better, considering that Brian Hoyer improved the team before he went on IR. I hear that the 2014 Draft will have a great crop of quarterbacks, both in quality and quantity (as opposed to 2013, which was a barren dust bowl for QBs). Cleveland could be part of that.
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How much better would they be if they traded down a bit and ended up with Tannehill? Maybe just marginally better, but it would given them a glimpse of hope and something to build on at least.
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The 2013 draft has several intriguing QB prospects, and the best pro out of the bunch may not be Teddy Bridgewater when we look back in 10 years.

The Browns will definitely upgrade that position significantly in this draft.
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