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Old 10-07-2013, 08:26 PM    (permalink
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Most teams in the NFL should be calling them right now and offering their second.
Unless the Browns know something that everyone else doesn't, this trade would be insane because the guy is too freaking good to trade away.
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He would have to have like, an impending murder trial or be an under-the-radar pedophile or something. The Vikings will send you a 2nd. Everyone should offer them a 2nd.
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Facing a year suspension, I can't really say getting a 1st is a bad thing, but if I was Cleveland, I'd be more excited about the fact that I'd have somebody for my new QB to throw the ball too vs having a lot of picks. They already have a ton of picks, I'd want some sure things.
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He would have to have like, an impending murder trial or be an under-the-radar pedophile or something. The Vikings will send you a 2nd. Everyone should offer them a 2nd.
Agreed. I wouldn't want the Browns to part with a first either. Even a top 10. It's hard to find talent, especially cheap talent. Keep what you actually find.
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I'll be **** pissed if that's all it takes to get done and the Patriots aren't involved.
Seriously I don't even want to acknowledge this if its true.
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Kenny Britt and a second for him.

Make it happen, Ruston.
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Gordon must be a gigantic turd for Cleveland to want to shop him.

If I was a team that needs a WR, I'd have to do a lot of hw on this before I make an offer. Something doesn't smell right here.

Unless Cleveland realizes they need as many picks as possible to trade up to get their future qb and decided that trading away Gordon gives them more ammo to do so?
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If they're serious about this, it does seem like a play for the #1 overall.

But still, it's striking how different the Browns FO is handling Gordon compared to Jerry and Dez. Both are similarly talented, have had off field problems but also seem like generally good guys. Browns FO apparently has no interest in behavioral therapy. It's working pretty well for Dallas. This is an interesting article about the drug policy...

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...I completely support imposing suspensions for PED-based violations of the NFL’s substance abuse policy, as the use of these drugs is clearly aimed at tilting the playing field. Cheating should be deterred and punished. But does this same logic apply to recreational drug- or alcohol-based violations? These are not rooted in a player’s sinister motive to gain an advantage at the expense of his peers, but rather in a compelling physiological need, a lack of control or even outright addiction. It is not the type of behavior that can necessarily be remedied through the threat of suspension, any more than the average chronic drug or alcohol user can always be deterred through the threat of jail-time. Thus, it probably merits different treatment. I get that league officials and franchise owners and managers have to do something, especially in light of the frequency of infractions and the league’s worsening public image. But this “something” should be something other than suspension.

Here’s why. Consider these statistics regarding Gordon and his fellow members in the 2013 recreational drug and alcohol suspension club:

Josh Gordon (Cleveland Browns): Two-game suspension resulting from June, 2013 failed drug test (codeine); two previous suspensions resulting from failed drug tests (both marijuana)
Justin Blackmon (Jacksonville Jaguars): Four-game suspension resulting from June, 2012 DUI; previous arrest and one-game suspension resulting from 2010 DUI
Von Miller (Denver Broncos): Four-game suspension resulting from July, 2013 failed drug test (codeine); previous suspension resulting from 2011 failed drug test (marijuana, amphetamines);
Aldon Smith (San Francisco 49ers): Indefinite leave of absence resulting from September 20, 2013 DUI and marijuana possession; previous arrest in 2011 for DUI.

Notice anything similar about all of these cases, aside from the conspicuous absence of any of my Seahawks (who for the record prefer PEDs)? Well, first, all of these players are repeat offenders, and as you can see, many of them were suspended for the exact same infractions for which they had previously been suspended and/or arrested. This seems to indicate that these were not random incidents, but rather parts of larger patterns of behavior that have not been corrected through traditional disciplinary measures. Second, these suspensions all occurred for incidents that occurred during the off-season, i.e., when the violators were not regularly playing football. What this suggests, at least to me, is that these players are more likely to stay on track when they are playing football and are more likely to fall off the wagon when they are not....
Another article on Gordon's incidents...Track record of mistakes casts a troubling shadow over Cleveland Browns WR Josh Gordon
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Well. ATL may look at him now.
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Every team in the league should be all over trading a second rounder for him.
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We won't trade for him, character issues are huge for TD.
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Kenny Britt and a second for him.

Make it happen, Ruston.
I have to ask...what is your take on Locker? Are you convinced he is going to continue progressing or would you go after a top flight QB if the Titties had the chance?
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Gordon has good character, just made some mistakes. He's no Von Miller.
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Honestly doubt CLE has any interest in trading him. They are obviously not in tank mode. ...and even if they were, you don't dump young cheap players that actually produce in tank mode. You collect those.
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ESPN's Ed Werder reports the Falcons are not considering making a run at Browns WR Josh Gordon in the wake of Julio Jones' foot injury.
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They're in tank mode, but other teams aren't agreeing with them. They're about to lose 5 in a row, anyway. We'll see how the team looks with Weeden back under center. The prognosis is not good.
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I'm starting to think Atlanta should look into aqcuiring Gordon due to the WR woes, Julio out for the season and Roddy with a nagging ankle injury that has been bothering him since the start of the season.
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I'm starting to think Atlanta should look into aqcuiring Gordon due to the WR woes, Julio out for the season and Roddy with a nagging ankle injury that has been bothering him since the start of the season.
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Read above.
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