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Old 10-21-2013, 05:05 PM    (permalink
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Listed at 6'3 and 218 lbs he is a 2 year starter at MLB for the Seminoles. He has been named ACC LB of the Week twice this season and is coming off an 11 tackle game against Clemson. He is a heat seeking missile on the field who is always around the ball. He is tremendously undersized for a LB in the NFL but has good cover skills.

He reminds me a lot of Carnell Lake of Steelers and Jaguars fame.

What say you on his position and draft status?

I am thinking the earliest is the mid 3rd Round to a low of the 5th Round.
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First off love the avatar, it was funny during the game the announcing crew was talking about what an inspiration speak Winston gave before the game...when really it was a fun little joke, not a serious speech....


As for Telvin, love his game, is playing out of his mind right now. And with the spread offenses in the NFL I think more teams will be using coverage type linebackers that they can leave on the field. Proof of that is Devonte Holloman, even though he put on 10 pounds or so since he has been in the NFL, he is more of the safety or "spur" type player in college and can still play in the NFL as a coverage athletic linebacker. DeAndre Levy comes to mind as well, was like 220 or something in college, great player all over the field and he has transitioned nicely as a solid outside linebacker in the NFL. Nick Moody last year was another one, athletic as hell linebacker and he is getting his shot in the NFL.


I think Telvin Smith could put on some more weight, and with how good he is playing it would not be shocking to see him as a late 2nd or 3rd round pick.
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Been one of my favorite players at FSU for a while. A guy who just jumps out at you when you watch him play because he is so fast and is always making impact plays. I understand the size concerns, but he is a LB all day imo. Just have to use him in the right way. Will probably be more of a WLB in the pros.
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Add 15# and he's all good.

Considering today's offseason draft prep academies, I don't think it's unreasonable for Telvin to show up at the combine around 230-232# and still keep his athleticism.
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I've been very impressed with him this year - read and react is good, lateral speed is good, short area quickness really good, covers well - just not great getting off blocks. I don't think getting to 230 lbs should be a major issue for him and I certainly think he can be a day two pick.
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He's extremely instinctive and has that elite athleticism to close on a play in a hurry, and he explodes trough ball carriers when he meets them. See ball get ball. That's really what you're looking for in a Will LB, guys that are just explosive playmakers.

I do agree that adding some weight will only help him, but he's not lacking functional strength. Really good looking Will prospect that should continue to rise throughout the draft process.
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The 4.41 forty he put up today is going send him soaring up draft boards. He is a freak athlete capable of being a downhill LB or a Strong Safety.
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The 4.41 forty he put up today is going send him soaring up draft boards. He is a freak athlete capable of being a downhill LB or a Strong Safety.
Well he is not THAT much of a freak considering his small size, but he is freaky good as a football player.
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Telvin Smith can't play OLB at 218# for 16 games. I just don't see it.
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wasn't his official like 4.51?
I think he'll be fine at WILL in a 4-3 as long as he gains a few lbs. in an NFL weight room (aka with NFL steroids instead of college steroids). Those guys cover backs and slot receivers a lot, at his height it can be done.
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I would try and move him to Safety.
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I usually love smaller LBs that fly to the ball, but for some reason I just can't get on the Telvin Smith bandwagon.
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My problem with Smith is that you'd think he'd make for an excellent coverage linebacker given his height and athleticism, but he doesn't seem to have very good instincts, particularly in zone coverage, meaning he doesn't always end up where he needs to be regardless of whether or not he is physically capable of getting there. When I watched him, blitzing seemed to be the best aspect of his game.
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My problem with Smith is that you'd think he'd make for an excellent coverage linebacker given his height and athleticism, but he doesn't seem to have very good instincts, particularly in zone coverage, meaning he doesn't always end up where he needs to be regardless of whether or not he is physically capable of getting there. When I watched him, blitzing seemed to be the best aspect of his game.
He was the MLB on passing downs in 2011-12. I don't recall any Big mental mistakes he's made in coverage. His best film in passing coverage will be from those sessions.
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