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Old 11-19-2013, 09:19 AM    (permalink
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Eli handles those situations fine. He does it behind closed doors.
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Well maybe he needs to use a different approach considering this issues happen, over, and over, and over and over and over, and over.......... again.

I am glad he handled it that way. I hope he does it more. If he is displeased because those fools hang him out to dry like that then let them know. Same with bradshaw couple years back in the Saints game regarding pass pro. I still remember Eli screaming at Bradshaw. If anyone like that screws up, I hope he continues to let them know.
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I think you have to pick your spots. If you do it all the time the message eventually gets tuned out. When Eli yells at you, you know it's bad. I think that sends a more meaningful message.
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Agreed with BBD. It happens over and over again because it's impossible for 2 people to see the exact thing every time.
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I think you have to pick your spots. If you do it all the time the message eventually gets tuned out. When Eli yells at you, you know it's bad. I think that sends a more meaningful message.
Sure, pick your spots if it happens once and a while. You explain it during the game or wait until the meeting. In our system, this happens religiously! Since 2004, Eli leads all Qbs in INTs in this specific high risk/high reward offense. Under those parameters, screw picking your spots. Those fools made him have that distinction. Now Eli is not perfect and gets blame, but no way that he is that Fing bad that he should be leading the NFL.

That's on the players and that's been happening when Shockey and Plax were here. Notice the 2 players Eli loves/loved to throw to were/are Steve Smith and Cruz. He doesn't trust anyone else and it's blatantly obvious.

He should be doing this more often. Clearly, his prior method is ineffective because it's a reoccuring problem. If Eli does that enough, those fools look bad on tv and in the media. They get the blame not him. Or if that's too extreme then don't cover for them. That doesn't mean throw them under the bus, but I noticed Brady has other methods.

Reporter: Tom, on that Int, what happened?

Tom: We have young players, and mistakes happen. We will work it out.

Basically, screw you guys, not my fault, it's the young WR who doesn't know his arse from his elbow.

That's what makes brady, good with leadership. He will tell you both guys to get your head out of your butt. Same with Peyton Manning. Like I said I am glad did that. His prior method of handling it is ineffective clearly. The same stuff keeps happening over and over. The only guy who gets an A is Cruz and before him Steve Smith.
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Agreed with BBD. It happens over and over again because it's impossible for 2 people to see the exact thing every time.
I am a big proponent of changing the system. I been saying this for a while now. It's an assinine expectation for this system. Now even simple, short, high percentage concepts are resulting in INTs, like Slants, and hitches. Run through a slant, and don't drift on a hitch. Basic, basic stuff HS kids can do.

Nothing will happen though. Old man Coughlin will be back with dumb and dumber.
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The statement since 2004 Eli leads the league in INTs is a deceiving statement. Who is second? Drew Brees? There are probably only 4-6 guys based on playing time who we would be talking about in that conversation.
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The statement since 2004 Eli leads the league in INTs is a deceiving statement. Who is second? Drew Brees? There are probably only 4-6 guys based on playing time who we would be talking about in that conversation.
Don't know but the media people bring it up all the time. They usually bring it up when talking about Eli or The Sanchize and his turnovers. Then they say, since 2004, Eli Manning has the most Ints, but The Sanchize.. and say his stat.
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He also has the most games played since 2004 so of course he'll have the most INT's. We all know the INT rate is and will always be high for Eli. It's frustrating for everyone. Nothing is changing though.
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Don't know but the media people bring it up all the time. They usually bring it up when talking about Eli or The Sanchize and his turnovers. Then they say, since 2004, Eli Manning has the most Ints, but The Sanchize.. and say his stat.
Most INTS since 2004 probably looks like this.

Eli
Brees
Palmer
Ben
Peyton
Brady
Rivers
Maybe Favre still.

Just a guess. But you have to be good to have played enough games to make that list.
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Most INTS since 2004 probably looks like this.

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Rivers
Maybe Favre still.

Just a guess. But you have to be good to have played enough games to make that list.
Also, we take into account that Eli plays in system that won't run up the score and in and near the goal line we are rushing it which I cannot stand either.

I am not sure what that list looks like. All I know is Eli is not that bad to be heading that list. The fact he is number 1 is basically on this system.
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He also has the most games played since 2004 so of course he'll have the most INT's. We all know the INT rate is and will always be high for Eli. It's frustrating for everyone. Nothing is changing though.
Yeah but that's not it at all. We are giants fans and watch ALL the games. You can put money down that an INT 99.9% of the time will fall into Eli's stat column. Either his fault, WRs, or bad luck. That's painfully obvious as a Giants fan watching him. An Int will nearly always show up on his stat line.
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I'll start bitching about Eli's leadership when someone goes back in time and makes him no longer one of the clutch way QBs in The NFL who's lead this team got two SBs in the last 5 years.
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who cares, we play as a team.

sure various units play to different levels at times and there are a lot of factors in play, including our talent, injuries, morale, schemes oh and of course the other team.

I am over the bitching about this player or that player. I will leave that for teams like Dallas.

Giants football is always about the team, we should remember that. We win or lose together.

I really like how this team hung together despite being 0-6 and now better things are happening which give us an opportunity.
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Conner and McBridge have hip issues. We need both. Webster might do a little work.
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I hope McBride can play, and play well. We are thin at CB yet again with Webster being a part time player and Ross on IR.
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who cares, we play as a team.

sure various units play to different levels at times and there are a lot of factors in play, including our talent, injuries, morale, schemes oh and of course the other team.

I am over the bitching about this player or that player. I will leave that for teams like Dallas.

Giants football is always about the team, we should remember that. We win or lose together.

I really like how this team hung together despite being 0-6 and now better things are happening which give us an opportunity.
He was being sarcastic lol.

We need Connor and McBride this week. TT too. We need all hands on deck for this one.
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Doesnt seem like anything that serious and today is always a rest today for some of the bruised up guys. I'm expecting everyone is a go this week except for Webster again.
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Dallas have given up a ton of yards the last couple of games, and on top of that two of their LBs are out.

I think we have opportunities on offense, both on the ground and in the air.

If we can stop the run, we can make Romo try and beat us in the air, and he is one of the worst QBs on third down.
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The Giants are talking like we're 10-1 instead of 4-6. I personally don't like it, but they usually play well when their confidence is this high.

I just hate that they do this. Shut up and play. We're still in a huge hole we need to crawl out of.
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The Giants are talking like we're 10-1 instead of 4-6. I personally don't like it, but they usually play well when their confidence is this high.

I just hate that they do this. Shut up and play. We're still in a huge hole we need to crawl out of.
I think it is the opponent too though. The Cowboys always rile them up. This teams hates the Cowboys more than the Eagles. As least that's what it seems. I also think they are pissed about week 1 because they know that's a game they probably should have won. Especially the defense.
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I think it is the opponent too though. The Cowboys always rile them up. This teams hates the Cowboys more than the Eagles. As least that's what it seems. I also think they are pissed about week 1 because they know that's a game they probably should have won. Especially the defense.
Yeah they always get fired up for the Cowboys. The Cowboys really are for the most part a spitting image of the Giants except our qb made plays in the clutch and theirs didn't. And our owner/coach doesn't suck.

So it's a natural rivalry just bc of how similar both teams are. Then you factor in the division and the notoriety of the Cowboys and you have a recipe for this level of intensity.
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