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View Poll Results: Should the Vikings trade Peterson this off-season?
No, he's the face of the franchise 19 43.18%
Yes but only if they get a #1 6 13.64%
Yes but only if they get a #1 AND any additional stuff 19 43.18%
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Old 01-02-2014, 07:46 AM    (permalink
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Yep. Right now, they have two of the poster children for not giving running backs that big second contract. Hard enough when a team has one, but two...yuck.
Would they still be stuck with those numbers if they could find someone who wanted to trade for Williams or Stewart?
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I suppose my second-favorite scenario is Peterson going to the Texans, who also draft Johnny Manziel first overall, and then running a wishbone offense with Arian Foster, Adrian Peterson and DeAnthony Thomas.
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If the Vikings could get a 1st, 3rd and a future 3rd for Percy Harvin who has had more injuries than AD in their pro careers and only an age difference of 3 years, I think they could more than just a 2nd.

But we wouldn't trade Adrian Peterson when he is our best asset going forward and like you said he fills those seats that the Vikings will be needing to sell when the new stadium opens.
Harvin is younger and plays a more valuable position in terms of draft picks.
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Would they still be stuck with those numbers if they could find someone who wanted to trade for Williams or Stewart?
Yep. Sure would.
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Houston Texans+AD+Teddy Bridgewater+JJ Watt=SB run.

But giving up the picks for AD is gonna hurt.
That's why I think Adrian Peterson is virtually untradable, with his cap number and the picks he's going to demand in a trade.
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trade him to cleveland please
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Have you been playing online Madden franchise with no salary cap again? The Cardinals are cutting it awfully close and the Giants can't buy a stadium priced beer without cutting someone.
LOL... I don't play that but......
I didn't research each team's financials.
Just the football part of it.

Peterson hinted at wanting to see the grass green on the other side.
And I think it makes sense for the Purple.

They are the ones who gave Dallas a dynasty 20-some years ago for Herschel Walker.
Now it's time they tried to reverse that a bit.
But A) Peterson is older than Walker was (I think) and B) RB's have become less important in terms of winning Super Bowls.
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trade him to cleveland please
Straight up for T-Rich?
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Everybody's been explaining why it's not a good idea for other teams to trade for Adrian Peterson, but I don't think it's a good idea from the Vikes point of view.

This team actually has some important pieces already in place: young talented LT in Matt Kalil, young talented playmaker at wideout in Patterson, the best RB in the NFL in Adrian Peterson. Trading away Adrian Peterson would be accepting that your team is giving up for the "future" and we've seen too many cases of worst to first for the Vikes to even consider it.

Now lets also note that Mike Zimmer is the new head coach, so that defense is going to take a huge leap forward. They already have some talented guys in Floyd, Rhodes, Harrison Smith, Allen; and Zimmer has a reputation to make his players overachieve.

So I say yeah, go crazy on a trade this offseason, but a trade to get a franchise QB in the draft. (Johnny Football, AD, Patterson on the same offense would be AWESOME)
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If you can get a first round pick for him, do it in a heart-beat.

As a RB, he doesn't even have more than 2-3 years, max, of above-average production left anyway.

And RB is one of the least valuable positions in the game.
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Anyone think the the Vikings a poised for a Super Bowl run in the next 3 years ? Sure Zimm is going to give the defense a boost and there are some nice young pieces on offense but I can't honestly say I see the beginings of an elite team, especially with the possible learning curve of a rookie QB. Beyond that point you are dealing with a 32 year old RB with serious wear and tear.

I would at least field offers to see what kind of value is on the table. An offer involving a guaranteed 1st and some other conditional compensation might work for a team on the verge of breaking through.
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Yes, they should trade him. They won't, but they should. He likely doesn't have many great years left and they aren't likely to compete for a SUper Bowl anytime soon. It seems like it would be better for the league and better for Minny if they traded him to a competitive team and used the returns to help rebuild.
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Anyone think the the Vikings a poised for a Super Bowl run in the next 3 years?

Sure Zimmer is going to give the defense a boost and there are some nice young pieces on offense but I can't honestly say I see the beginings of an elite team, especially with the possible learning curve of a rookie QB.

Beyond that point you are dealing with a 32 year old RB with serious wear and tear.

I would at least field offers to see what kind of value is on the table. An offer involving a guaranteed 1st and some other conditional compensation might work for a team on the verge of breaking through.
^ Very well-said, and accurate.
While it would immediately, obviously, piss off the majority of the Purple Fan Base, it would be smart for them long term, and medium term.
Maybe even short term as well, if they hit with the picks and get a boost elsewhere on that roster. Obviously, they need to parlay everything into getting their first drafted franchise QB since who knows when. Some say Culpepper was, others say he was a product of the system, different argument all together.
Regardless, they can't go anywhere without a good-great QB.

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Yes, they should trade him. They won't, but they should. He likely doesn't have many great years left and they aren't likely to compete for a Super Bowl anytime soon.
Super Bowl?
Any time soon?
Go back to the decade of the 1970's.
They have no Super Bowl in sight as-is. And if that is their goal (and not just winning the NFC North or defeating Green Bay once), then they might as well use the one big piece of leverage they have, while they still can. That's #28.
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If you can get a first round pick for him, do it in a heart-beat.
I agree, and I believe they should be able to get at least that for him.
From who though?

Oakland?
Washington?
New Orleans? Really would not want to see Brees have that guy behind him.
Cleveland?
Arizona? I like that fit.
Baltimore? Ray Rice has been awful.
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Id give up our 1st and Ingram for AP... Our window for the Super Bowl is about 3 years, and with Brees AP wont have to carry the load all the time and wear down as fast.
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I'd give up our 1st and Ingram for AP... Our window for the Super Bowl is about 3 years, and with Brees AP wont have to carry the load all the time and wear down as fast.
I said I don't want to see Brees get that guy!

Didn't you already trade extra to move up and draft Mark Ingram in the first place?

That would be an ironic deal.

But one I think would help the Saints tremendously.
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**** trading Peterson for just a late first. Not at all worth it. He means more to the team than that.
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Id give up our 1st and Ingram for AP... Our window for the Super Bowl is about 3 years, and with Brees AP wont have to carry the load all the time and wear down as fast.
why? so we can run him 8 times a game?
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Try for years and years to get a new stadium, finally get one approved and immediately trade the face of the franchise? Makes perfect sense...
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Right, because trading him before you get a new stadium financed makes much more sense?
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I think the point is why trade him for anything but an amazing return? Even is Peterson only has say three years left he is one of the all time greats and is worth more than a late first rounder. He will have more impact than a late first rounder unless the Vikings get very lucky. It just doesn't make sense from a football standpoint nor from a marketing standpoint. Teams gameplan around Peterson and will Zimmer now the HC I have faith with some retooling the defense will be solid. This teams needs a QB and a late first rounder won't net them one.
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Right, because trading him before you get a new stadium financed makes much more sense?
I'm not sure where I suggested trading him at all.
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The NFC North division doesn't look scary but it is certainly better than the NFC West when the 49ers went Losers to Winners or AFC South when Colts turned it around.

The next couple years...
Green Bay has the highest rated QB of the era. If he's on the field they are competitive.

Chicago and Detroit have somewhat buffoonish play at QB but with the weapons at their disposal usually makes up for it.

The path to winning for MIN is a tight-rope walk.

All-Time Great for sure. But that QB level salary makes it hard to piece together a team.
He can't just be better than the other teams RBs making 500k-5mil. He has to be utterly dominant.

Trade him for whatever and rebuild.
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I said I don't want to see Brees get that guy!

Didn't you already trade extra to move up and draft Mark Ingram in the first place?

That would be an ironic deal.

But one I think would help the Saints tremendously.
Yeah, but trad Ingram now while he isnt a total failure.

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why? so we can run him 8 times a game?
We averaged 25 rushes a game. I would give up a first and Ingram to have the best RB in the NFL rush 18-20 times a game. We use 4 different RBs to find the "hot hand" in running the ball.... I think everyone knows who the hot hand would be every game then. And Payton has been on record numerous times that he would want to run the ball more. AP would do as good for us as a new WR because teams cant double Jimmy with 8 in the box to stop AP.
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I don't see how a first round pick is more valuable than Peterson. If we can get a QB there is no reason we won't compete for the North. A first round pick is going to be another rookie that we hope will be a good starter in the league. Yeah, I'll take three years of the all time great back instead. If we land a solid rookie QB, there is no reason we can't make a run in the next three years. We have pieces, we just need a solid draft and some nice veteran FA signings. Trading away our best player makes no sense for the any-term future of our franchise.
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