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Old 01-06-2014, 12:23 PM    (permalink
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Horrible idea. Now the red carpet will be rolled out for more of the rift raft.

Apparently this isn't confirmed a league spokesman said. It's something that would have to be voted on maybe in March at the owner's meeting.
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I don't hate it, but I don't like how 14 out of 32 teams will make the playoffs every year. It's going in the wrong direction. The playoffs should be a big thing, not like the NBA where every team gets in.

If there was always 14 teams, would the Bills, Browns and Raiders all still have their playoff droughts?
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Eh, that'll kill division rivalries, though.

I really, really like disliking the Packers and Vikings.

Without the playoff spot on the line, it's going to be hard to feel that way. I think it would take away a lot of the "fire" I feel when watching the Bears play them, and seriously, those 4 games are the best of the season (except for when the Vikings suck).
I understand both sides to this argument, but I lean more towards your line of thinking when it comes to the rivalry aspect of the game. Those can't be diminished. I don't really care that my team had to go on the road to play the Packers this week. If we can't beat them there then what chance do we have of beating the Panthers in Carolina or possibly the Seahawks in Seattle? I'm fine with divisional winners keeping the home game, regardless of record.
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This starts in the 2015 season, right?

About ten years ago a sports radio host predicted that in the somewhat distant future, the NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL will send all their teams to the playoffs. I'm starting to think he's right. The NCAA already does that with the basketball conference tournaments (where the winner automatically gets into the NCAA tournament, even if their record is 4-27).
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Eh, that'll kill division rivalries, though.

I really, really like disliking the Packers and Vikings.

Without the playoff spot on the line, it's going to be hard to feel that way. I think it would take away a lot of the "fire" I feel when watching the Bears play them, and seriously, those 4 games are the best of the season (except for when the Vikings suck).
Division titles should still count as an automatic playoff birth, but they should seed teams by record. Just because you won your division doesn't mean you get to host the game if the opponent won more games than you in the regular season. I don't give a **** if this disenfranchises fans in some regions if they don't get a home playoff game in their market.
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Division titles should still count as an automatic playoff birth, but they should seed teams by record. Just because you won your division doesn't mean you get to host the game if the opponent won more games than you in the regular season. I don't give a **** if this disenfranchises fans in some regions if they don't get a home playoff game in their market.
Meh, I don't mind that tbh. It gives some structure and makes winning your division a bigger deal. If you win your division but only have the 7th seed, it kind of takes that away. And 40% of a teams games in a season are division games, I think it's fair that you get a home playoff game for finishing ahead of those 3 teams.
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I don't mind an 11-5 team visiting a 10-6 division winner in the playoffs. What I hate is an 8-8 or 7-9 team getting home field because they won the division. Fortunately, that did not apply in either the 2012 or 2013 playoffs.
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Meh, I don't mind that tbh. It gives some structure and makes winning your division a bigger deal. If you win your division but only have the 7th seed, it kind of takes that away. And 40% of a teams games in a season are division games, I think it's fair that you get a home playoff game for finishing ahead of those 3 teams.
Even though they won, there was absolutely no justifiable reason for the Seahawks at 7-9 to be hosting the 11-5 Saints.

Also, I hate the idea of adding another team to the postseason. It's perfect at 6.
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Cowboys still won't make it
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There is no way to discount a division winner. Division winner deserves a home game. Stay that way.

For last 3 playoff teams, they have to keep winning to get in if not for a division shot. Simple.
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Meh, I don't mind that tbh. It gives some structure and makes winning your division a bigger deal. If you win your division but only have the 7th seed, it kind of takes that away. And 40% of a teams games in a season are division games, I think it's fair that you get a home playoff game for finishing ahead of those 3 teams.
Then why not just factor in division record when doing the playoff spot, or even conference record? Why use overall record for division games?

If you win your division and your 8-8, say you go 4-2 in your division. That means you only won 4 of your other 10 games, does that really warrant a playoff spot?

Should you really reward a team for beating up on a poor division?

Or could we at least make it that you have to win the division and 9 games? The 2008 8-8 Chargers cost the 11-5 Patriots. the 7-9 2010 Seahawks cost 2 10-6 teams the chance to get in and there's several other cases over the past 10 years.

It doesn't happen too often, but it's a shame when a team with 2-3 less wins get in because they won a poor division
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Then why not just factor in division record when doing the playoff spot, or even conference record? Why use overall record for division games?

If you win your division and your 8-8, say you go 4-2 in your division. That means you only won 4 of your other 10 games, does that really warrant a playoff spot?

Should you really reward a team for beating up on a poor division?

Or could we at least make it that you have to win the division and 9 games? The 2008 8-8 Chargers cost the 11-5 Patriots. the 7-9 2010 Seahawks cost 2 10-6 teams the chance to get in and there's several other cases over the past 10 years.

It doesn't happen too often, but it's a shame when a team with 2-3 less wins get in because they won a poor division
Winning your division is the whole point. That's why the teams that don't win their division are "wildcards"...What if a team has a 10/11 wins but they didn't play a decent team all season? They should get rewarded for beating up on bad teams?
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Winning your division is the whole point. That's why the teams that don't win their division are "wildcards"...What if a team has a 10/11 wins but they didn't play a decent team all season? They should get rewarded for beating up on bad teams?
But why is winning the division the whole point if the division is crappy?

The Chiefs won 11 games and beat up on crappy teams all year. But they still won 11 games, which is just as good if not better than 4 teams that won their division.

This isn't the BCS, we don't rank based on quality of wins or strength of competition, we rank by wins.
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But why is winning the division the whole point if the division is crappy?

The Chiefs won 11 games and beat up on crappy teams all year. But they still won 11 games, which is just as good if not better than 4 teams that won their division.

This isn't the BCS, we don't rank based on quality of wins or strength of competition, we rank by wins.
Because the divisions are separate from each other for a reason. If you aren't going to recognise divisions you may as well get rid of them. If you disregard divisions when determining playoff places what's stopping you from doing the same with conferences? The best 14 teams regardless of conference?
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But how realistic is that?
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Division titles should still count as an automatic playoff birth, but they should seed teams by record. Just because you won your division doesn't mean you get to host the game if the opponent won more games than you in the regular season. I don't give a **** if this disenfranchises fans in some regions if they don't get a home playoff game in their market.
Yeah, that's something I've always agreed with pretty strongly. A 9-7 division winner should be on the road against an 11-5 wild card.

Winning the division has to mean going to the playoffs, even if you win it at 3-13. That potential for leaving a division winner out of the playoffs is what makes me hate mightytitan's idea.
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I wish a team that goes 3-13, or 4-12, gets a playoff spot. Would be hilarious, then real changes would take place, everyone would be ******** themselves.

Division winner, and that division would have to be all world bad, like worse than, when the seahawk got in, cause the 9er, cards and rams Sucked.
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This sounds like Jerry Jones once again trying to game the system in order to get his team into the playoffs. I think every year when the Cowboys don't make the playoffs there is always Jerry Jones lobbying for more seeds in the playoffs.
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This is just as bad as changing the draft. Why **** with something that is an unparalleled success?
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But how realistic is that?
Really?

Jacksonville
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Philadelphia (pre-Foles)
New York Giants
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Houston
Cleveland
Buffalo

Denver L
San Diego L
Denver L

Washington
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Indianapolis L
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I don't hate it, but I don't like how 14 out of 32 teams will make the playoffs every year. It's going in the wrong direction. The playoffs should be a big thing, not like the NBA where every team gets in.

If there was always 14 teams, would the Bills, Browns and Raiders all still have their playoff droughts?
I think the Browns would have made it Derek Anderson's pro bowl year. The other two I think still wouldn't have.
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NO!!!!

Playoffs should stay as is. NBA allowing 16 teams which I think is half the damn league get in the playoffs is one of the many reasons why it sucks.

NFL can easily make money in other ways. They dont need to expand the playoffs. Keep it the way it is. And unlike most, I believe that division winners SHOULD get a home playoff game regardless of their record.

49ers went 12-4. Packers went 8-7-1 but is it Green Bay's fault that at 6-2, the Lions decided to suck for the second half of the season?

Besides, great teams win on the road. If they dont, then they arent great.

I hope that the NFL keeps everything as is. If anything should change, its the pre-season. Cut it down to one home game and road game with a two week off period before the season starts. Main reason is because I dont want to see players get injured during pre-season games. Rather see teams as close to 100% healthy going into the regular season.
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