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Old 01-16-2014, 11:56 PM    (permalink
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Former Giants WR Ramses Barden signed with the Bills.
:D I love tall WRs. I hope he can finally stay healthy.
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:D I love tall WRs. I hope he can finally stay healthy.
Health wasn't really the issue. He's pretty useless.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:25 AM    (permalink
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Health wasn't really the issue. He's pretty useless.
Eh, he shined for one game, never really got any other opportunities. JJ shined as well for 3 games after never getting on the field. Then Barden was hurt this year (though he got 0 FA interest before resigning).

All in all, I'd say fairly useless but a slight step above your normal futures contract.
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Barden can't separate. That's his problem. I still think he can be an effective depth signing for them if he remains healthy but he'll never take the top off the defense.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:57 AM    (permalink
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I'm not too crazy about Barden. As far as tall longshot futures go I'll probably still put my hope into Brandon Kaufman over Barden. You never know who can latch on to a roster but it's not like there's really much space for somebody to work their way into the corps like everyone hoped for Da'Rick.
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What's the market for a guy like Decker?
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I'm not too crazy about Barden. As far as tall longshot futures go I'll probably still put my hope into Brandon Kaufman over Barden. You never know who can latch on to a roster but it's not like there's really much space for somebody to work their way into the corps like everyone hoped for Da'Rick.
I'll put my hope into Kaufman as well, but I'm not holding my breath for either to work out. Good point about Da'Rick and the roster.
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Cleveland at 5 years 35 million dollars.
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All these guys are Free Agents, and grade out pretty well to very good from PFF.

#1- how big of $, $$, $$$, $$$$ contracts will it take for these guys?
#2- how would you say they played for your team this year?
Many Billz fans will say he sucks, blah, blah, blah....

I disagree. Its a "know your personel thing". Moats has been moved all over the place since being drafted, ILB 34, DE 43, SOLB 34, WOLB 34, ILB 43, and so on. I think he found his home this year.

Moats is a rock solid run defender, maintains his assignment discipline, who offers average pass rush (ended B. Farves streak). Buffalo allowed too many 20+ yard runs this year, and I struggle to remember Moats being on the field for many of them, much less having any liability. Bradham on the other hand....
Moats I would say played very well in this role, others would say he struggled.

Moats seemed to flourish for him playing the weak side as a run defender, not great with his drops and not much experience in man coverage (might not ever be a man defender). Weakside OLB in a 34/hybrid seems to be his thing. Good special teams player, a great person who will never embarass the franchise, and a community angel. Won the Bills Walter Payton award this year I believe. A "team" first guy who plays with in his ability and role., Billacheat would love him I believe. I have heard from legit "inside" sources he loves it in Buffalo and wants to stay, not sure how they view him, with nothing noted publically and no "inside" sources within the organization.

Money wise, I think he made like 1.3 million this year, and shouldnt command top dollar on the market, but should make the same if not a little more I would imagine. He did not play outside of special teams the last 3 games of the year if my memory serves me well and I am still not sure why.

Never going to be a star, but IMO a solid back up, servicable role starter and special teams player who will be a stalwart in the community.
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I'm not too crazy about Barden. As far as tall longshot futures go I'll probably still put my hope into Brandon Kaufman over Barden. You never know who can latch on to a roster but it's not like there's really much space for somebody to work their way into the corps like everyone hoped for Da'Rick.
I went to high school with Barden. We were Division XIII champions together. woot woot F-prep rebels for life, he will dominate with the Bills.

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i think he'll go for more than that, because people won't watch the tape on him.
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I think 5 yr 35m is pretty accurate, maybe 5yr 40m on the high end
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Not a Raiders fan but I hope he ends up in Oakland. They certainly can afford pay the man this offseason.
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McCown not planning to retire - will be interesting to see what happens with him in FA
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What's the Hakeem Nicks market going to be?
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Nicks...I heard some team wanted him as like a "Prove you're trying" contract.

If he's affordable, Detroit or KC would be great for him.
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I could see the Ravens in the mix if he accepts an incentive laced deal that won't hit the cap too hard.
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I was thinking the same thing for us in St. Louis. Wouldn't a bad player to get under a 1 year "prove it" contract and help coach up some of the younger Receivers (Quick, Austin, Givens, Bailey).
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The way I see it, either Eric Decker is going to the Raiders or Hakeem Nicks is going to the Raiders. They can afford a one year deal with a heavy cap hit better than anyone else.
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Nicks...I heard some team wanted him as like a "Prove you're trying" contract.

If he's affordable, Detroit or KC would be great for him.
Well, the Lions would need to have money to do that...which they don't.
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Originally Posted by SolidGold View Post
McCown not planning to retire - will be interesting to see what happens with him in FA
It'll only be interesting if someone makes the mistake of signing him as their starter without having a fallback option.
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