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Old 02-08-2014, 07:08 PM    (permalink
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Yes. Precisely.
You're basically criticizing him for not having a huge freshman year. Which is nonsensical.
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Knocking a player for dropped passes is something I really loathe. You know who drops passes? EVERYONE!

Brandon Marshall led the league in drops this year.
Jimmy Graham in 2012 (Megatron, Marshall, and Cruz tied for 2nd)
Roddy White in 2011
James Jones was ridiculed for drops, nobody signed him as a FA, then he led the league with 13 TDs the next year.

Receivers who get open drop the ball, but the key is they get open.
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You're basically criticizing him for not having a huge freshman year. Which is nonsensical.
I'm knocking him for not having much experience heading into the next level. It's just the facts. I probably should have worded it differently.
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You're basically criticizing him for not having a huge freshman year. Which is nonsensical.
It's more a case of being skeptical of a receiver who was only successful in one season, that season coming with a Heisman-winning quarterback. Usually, you'd like a prospect to have more consistent/extensive output than one impressive season. Also, the three receivers I'd rank ahead of him (Evans, Lee, Watkins) all went over 1,000 yards in their first seasons.
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This guy has amazing body control while in the air. And if he drops a easy one here and there I'll take it cause he brings down the hard rec a lot.

Plus at 6 foot 5 and 240ish he doesn't look at all " Fat ". This guy could become special.
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Also, the three receivers I'd rank ahead of him (Evans, Lee, Watkins) all went over 1,000 yards in their first seasons.
They also all played in stat ***** offenses.
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They also all played in stat ***** offenses.
Marquise Lee?
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Marquise Lee?
Caught an absurd number of screen passes.
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I would have liked Benjamin to get more screens actually. It's hard to get a handle on his RAC as is.
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Could Benjamin have a future role as a tight end?
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Why not, they still call Jimmy Graham and Tim Wright TE's...
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I'm knocking him for not having much experience heading into the next level. It's just the facts. I probably should have worded it differently.
I agree completely. Having only one his one big year is certainly a knock. It's not something directly wrong with him but with such a short career it doesn't show how he would progress over the next seasons and if any issues arise. It's not a major flaw but you get less tape and situations to scout him with.
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I watched some YouTube videos of him (lol... I know, but I missed the college season in a hole somewhere.) and he just looked soft for his size. Lots of talent on the boundary but soft. Not a TE to me. Maybe an X.
Also his effort when he wasn't play side was... Weak at best.
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Who has the balls to draft Benjamin, make him gain about 15# and convert him to TE??
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Who has the balls to draft Benjamin, make him gain about 15# and convert him to TE??
Why "convert" him? Why not just "use" him in the slot like Marques Colston?
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Why "convert" him? Why not just "use" him in the slot like Marques Colston?
I feel like the answer somehow involves adding 10 pounds and knowing what someone else is thinking.
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This guy doesn't need to be a TE. He's no BMW ( Big Mike Williams ). Will he drop 10 pounds before the draft... yes. But at 6 foot 5 and 230 he's fine at WR. Just needs to run 4.6 or below for me to be ok with him.
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Ummm...no.

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bout sums it up
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He is not a TE, Graham is. Graham is thick as hell, especially in his lower body. Bejamin is more of a big boned kid that would get dumpy with more weight added IMO. He is what he is, a 1.5 trick pony.
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I think Benjamin is a bust waiting to happen. I thought his effort on the field was inconsistent. I saw him give up on a lot of plays. He wouldn't sustain blocks or continue routes if the ball wasn't coming his way. At the Combine he looked disinterested.

His drops - uncontested, wide open - are aggravating. He should have had 300 yards against Florida if he just made the routine catch. He's very raw and he doesn't use his frame or length all that well. He body catches quite a bit. His routes are sloppy and he runs a lot of post patterns and 9 routes. He's not even the best wide receiver on his own team.

He's vastly overrated. He's marginally athletic and he's the type of WR I usually rank lower than most. He's had one good year of production with just three 100 yard games in his career. He should have stayed in school. He has all the red flags of someone who's lazy, looking for a payday and ready to fall flat on his face in the pros. He has natural ability but he's too much of a project with too many red flags that prevent players like him from reaching their potential. I also think he's soft.

4th round prospect.
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