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Old 02-10-2014, 10:04 AM    (permalink
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Character building . . . isn't the lack of that a pretty consistent complaint?

Walking Dead has entered the realm of 'popular to hate' of which there is no escape, except the insidious 'I like it ironically'. It no longer matters what they do in the show. It's going to be panned.
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Solid start. The Rick & Carl dynamic is predictable but still good. The Michonne stuff was absolutely awesome. I liked the dream aspect with the katana sliding into the block and the jumping timeline all taking place at the dinner table.

Character building . . . isn't the lack of that a pretty consistent complaint?
This. All my complaints were pretty much shut down and I'm happy to admit it. I hate Carl but seeing him turn into a child again was something the show needed personally. I'd rather him of been eaten by Rick just for the hilarity but this works.
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Walking Dead has entered the realm of 'popular to hate' of which there is no escape, except the insidious 'I like it ironically'. It no longer matters what they do in the show. It's going to be panned.
Yup, pretty much. A lot of people where say they watch it ironically but I think that is BS. The show is now in it's 4th season. You don't watch something for four years that sucks.
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There is the "popular to hate" crowd and there is the bigger and infinitely more obnoxious "lalala I can't identify a single problem wrong with this show, I mean it has zombies!1!111" crowd.
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New season, same arguments.
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There is the "popular to hate" crowd and there is the bigger and infinitely more obnoxious "lalala I can't identify a single problem wrong with this show, I mean it has zombies!1!111" crowd.
Nobody on this site falls into that second group. Broth and I are two of the most vocal supporters of the show and we have both voiced concerns from time to time.
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Old 02-10-2014, 11:35 AM    (permalink
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Carl is awful. That said the scene with him sitting on the roof eating was by far the best acting he has done on the show. I was very impressed. Michonne is always great so I enjoyed her stuff. I didn't really think it was a great episode but I didn't hate it. Rick as a character is flat so hopefully something is done or actual character development occurs that makes him interesting again.
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I thought this episode was random at times and I would think more people would have met up. The next show I think will be more entertaining since it won't be focused on just 3 characters
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I liked that it focused on less characters. I tend to really dislike episodes focused on the entire group because I hate most of the characters. I didn't miss any of the characters not included this episode. Yes, I am including Daryl, he is not the great character he used to be.
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I do think people are way too hard on the show. It's hardly amazing, but it's not near as bad as something like the last season of Dexter.
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I liked that it focused on less characters. I tend to really dislike episodes focused on the entire group because I hate most of the characters. I didn't miss any of the characters not included this episode. Yes, I am including Daryl, he is not the great character he used to be.
I know I posted this but so much of why people liked Darryl came from "crossbow" and "badass", and largely not being half as brain dead as half the other characters he was with and very little to do with him being a sophisticated/interesting character.

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Something something not hitting potential something.
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If we started to compare shows to the last season of Dexter nearly every show would be considered good.
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Carl started to turn a corner last season. This show's writers will take any good part they run into and **** it up.

The Michonne bits were good. I'm sure they'll **** that up soon enough.
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I really hate Carl.
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It was slower than I wanted, and I knew it wasn't gonna be great when it became apparent it was gonna be a Carl episode, but it wasn't the worst. I was just ready for more of an action episode than that.
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Abraham WOO! But the addition of three new characters means some folks have to die. Also Carol's back. Another good episode IMO.
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I think the structure helped to make this an especially unengaging setup episode. It kind of works when it's solitary Glen and it might be the most time Beth has gotten since she was suicidal, but it was wholly forgettable. Was slightly taken aback when I first saw the young girl after just seeing her on True Detective.
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I don't know why I don't keep up with this show. When I started watching it on Netflix I was binge watching, watched every episode in like 5 days time. Now that I have to wait a week, my interest level has gone from 8/10 to around 2/10.
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I think the structure helped to make this an especially unengaging setup episode. It kind of works when it's solitary Glen and it might be the most time Beth has gotten since she was suicidal, but it was wholly forgettable. Was slightly taken aback when I first saw the young girl after just seeing her on True Detective.
Who is Beth?

The Glen parts were the best part of the episode until big-tittied lesbian started talking. I don't think BTL is terrible, but bringing her into that situation kinda ruined what they had going with solo Glen.

Carol is terrible, and I'm pissed that she's back (though it was inevitable). Also, hasn't that same young guy and same middle-aged guy died in every season/sub-season?
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