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Old 02-24-2014, 11:55 PM    (permalink
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It's time to talk about "True Detective" and the female body. Or rather, bodies, loads of them, left naked and chained, stacked high in the morgue, murdered, traumatized or simply stripped bare for the audience's (and the president's) titillation. Early on, Vulture's Margaret Lyons noted how many more dead women than live ones the show made room for, but for me the breaking point was last night's episode, "Haunted Houses," where Woody Harrelson's Martin Hart was once again mounted, cowboy style, by a nubile young woman whose naked breasts dangled pendulously over his all but unseen body. It's followed later in the episode by a scene in which the young woman, a former child prostitute whom Hart once tried to rescue from her life of sin, calls him up and tells him she'd like Hart to introduce her to the world of what Sinead O'Connor once called "the difficult brown." Hart licks his lips when he hears this, and who wouldn't? You can bet that nagging wife of his is an exit-only gal, and for a man as preoccupied with female purity as Hart, the idea of breaking in an orifice that a onetime wh*re has never had defiled must be something close to heaven. (On Twitter, BuzzFeed's Kate Aurthur raised the possibility this may be a line she's used before, or else she's drawing a line between her former professional duties and her private life. But the way it's staged, with her looking coyly over her shoulder at her own ass in a full-length mirror, plays right into Hart's fantasy, and the audience's.)

Scenes like this make it awfully hard to accept "True Detective" as the sobersided philosophical inquiry it presents itself as: Phil-bro-sophical is more like it. Sure, there are the windy monologues delivered by Matthew McConaughey's Rust Cohle about fourth-dimensional perspectives and the recurring nature of evil, but don't worry: It's also got tits.

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Like many critics, I was initially charmed by the show's anthology structure (eight episodes and out; next season a fresh story) and its witty chronology, which chops and dices a serial-killer investigation, using two time lines.... On the other hand, you might take a close look at the show's opening credits, which suggest a simpler tale: one about heroic male outlines and closeups of female asses. The more episodes that go by, the more I'm starting to suspect that those asses tell the real story.

This aspect of "True Detective" (which is written by Nic Pizzolatto and directed by Cary Fukunaga) will be gratingly familiar to anyone who has ever watched a new cable drama get acclaimed as "a dark masterpiece"... After years of watching "Boardwalk Empire," "Ray Donovan," "House of Lies," and so on, I've turned prickly, and tired of trying to be, in the novelist Gillian Flynn's useful phrase, the Cool Girl: a good sport when something smells like macho nonsense. And, frankly, "True Detective" reeks of the stuff. The series, for all its good looks and its movie-star charisma, isn't just using dorm-room deep talk as a come-on: it has fallen for its own sales pitch.

Source: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critic...ision_nussbaum
This show paints a negative portrait of everyone it portrays and is very much a dissection of masculinity and old American values. "Critiques" like this miss the point entirely. Complaining about the lack of positive women on the show, while ignoring that every man on the show is a piece of trash, and complaining about the lack of focus on women, while ignoring the purposefully male centric nature of the show, is so ideologically selfish I can't even begin to comprehend it. This is like me complaining about the lack of positive men and male focus in Sex and The City.

Feminism ruins everything. Prove me wrong.
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New wave feminism is a joke and has turned into man-bashing rather than female empowerment. But that's a discussion for another forum.

Watched episode 6 last night and it was underwhelming, but still a good episode. Tough to follow episodes 4 & 5, but this episode did a good job of creating tension and getting us to the shows present day. That line from Cohle to the baby killer "If you get a chance you should probably kill yourself" was chilling. Spoken in the same exact tone he just used to sooth her and get her to confess he uses to break her down.

We're now entering the 3rd and final act and I can't wait.
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Next episode looks like a crazy good set up episode for the finale. I am very excited. Hopefully we cut out the naked female body from these final two episodes.
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Screw that! Just for that feminist ******** I hope they start off in a strip club!!!
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Honestly, what I find most entertaining about those complaints is that obviously the writers have never watched any other HBO shows. I feel like there is significantly less nudity so far in True Detective than most of their other shows.

Also, it's late 80s/early 90s southern Louisiana...how many prominent and powerful female roles do you think there would be? I mean, I guess they just want Maggie to be an independent, self-empowered woman that doesn't need Marty, but that would change the whole dynamic of Marty's character and the storyline that he has so much **** going on he can't focus on work or might be missing the obvious.
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Southern culture to this day even, let alone seventeen years ago, dealing with the environment of a police department.
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Anybody who complains about nudity in the show or it not having strong female characters is not to be taken seriously or paid attention too. Morons.
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Im laughing so hard right now.
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Is there a decent place to watch this other than HBO?
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Anyone else notice that Tuttle was wearing a yellow tie. And that he is a man of considerable stature.

Yellow King?
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Anyone else notice that Tuttle was wearing a yellow tie. And that he is a man of considerable stature.

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No scars tho
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That was IMO a tricky scene. Perhaps intentionally. She says he has scars. Cohle asks about his face. She freaks out. She never really says that the scars are on his face but because Cohle asks whether the scars were on his face as a viewer that is the assumption you make.
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That was IMO a tricky scene. Perhaps intentionally. She says he has scars. Cohle asks about his face. She freaks out. She never really says that the scars are on his face but because Cohle asks whether the scars were on his face as a viewer that is the assumption you make.
This is true however others have attested that he has scars in previous episodes as well, like the girls at the church who saw him talking to Lang.
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Snipped this earlier, SINCE NOBODY ELSE WILL ******* ACKNOWLEDGE IT. **** YOU XIO AND ALEX.
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That's not necessarily occult, it could easily be this.
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The second from the right is absolutely the Yellow King. And why throw a picture of Dora Lange with 5 guys and a dude dressed like that? A random ass background red herring?
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The second from the right is absolutely the Yellow King. And why throw a picture of Dora Lange with 5 guys and a dude dressed like that? A random ass background red herring?
Yes.

And although he doesn't know all the details of the killing, Rust himself believes that Dora Lange was chosen at random and meant nothing to the killer other than the symbolism that she could evoke. Dora Lange being involved with the cult from such a young age and then ending up murdered/sacrificed as an adult would completely defeat that theory. Furthermore, the only evidence of MO regarding kids that we have from the cult has been via abductions or attempted abductions. There is the Light of the Way connection, but those kids were teenagers, not young children. Unless I'm forgetting someone, Dora Lange was never abducted (nor was there an attempt) as a child. The cult and Yellow King waiting a decade plus to target Dora Lange doesn't fit what we know about them.
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Where was that picture?
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Where was that picture?
The photo was on display in the Lange living room. Which actually furthers my argument, as it had to have been considered a happy moment for to be on display like that, which fits the capuchon/Mardi Gras explanation.
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