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Old 04-08-2014, 11:44 AM    (permalink
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The pass rush is the first or second biggest need on the team...however that gets fixed (OLB, NT, DE...whatever they need to do) it needs to be better.

34, 35, and 37 sacks the last three years (34 being last years sad sad total) is a far cry from the

2010 48
2009 47
2008 51
oh and 2005 another 47

Whether the pass rush improves because of better dline play or a premier pass rusher putting the team on his back thats an average of 49 sacks ( a whopping 15 more than last year) every time they went to the superbowl and had a top 5 defense.

Corners looked pretty damn good back then. Which is why Id rather address either the pass rush or WR in the first round rather than CB. Give me Barr over Dennard all day
That's sort of what makes me want to overhaul the D-Line this year. Back in 08 both Harrison and Woodley were in their prime, but so were Smith, Keisel, and Hampton. All those five guys were playing at their best. Smith and Keisel taking care of business allowed Harrison and Woodley to do their thing, and everyone benefited. Outside of Heyward, I'm not really convinced of any other guy. McLendon is solid, but I'd certainly entertain an upgrade.

A lot of guys hate taking 3-4 defensive linemen in the first round, but if you hit on guys the line can be absolutely beastly. Take the Jets for example. Wilkerson and Richardson are probably the best 3-4 DE duo right now and they're both under 25.

There's only so much Worilds will be able to do with Cam Thomas in front of him. Hopefully we upgrade their. Jarvis Jones fortunately has Heyward in front of him.
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So do you guys think we truly like Dennard, or is it some big smokescreen?
praying its a smokescreen
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That's sort of what makes me want to overhaul the D-Line this year. Back in 08 both Harrison and Woodley were in their prime, but so were Smith, Keisel, and Hampton. All those five guys were playing at their best. Smith and Keisel taking care of business allowed Harrison and Woodley to do their thing, and everyone benefited. Outside of Heyward, I'm not really convinced of any other guy. McLendon is solid, but I'd certainly entertain an upgrade.

A lot of guys hate taking 3-4 defensive linemen in the first round, but if you hit on guys the line can be absolutely beastly. Take the Jets for example. Wilkerson and Richardson are probably the best 3-4 DE duo right now and they're both under 25.

There's only so much Worilds will be able to do with Cam Thomas in front of him. Hopefully we upgrade their. Jarvis Jones fortunately has Heyward in front of him.
yes and no... i do somewhat agree but at the end of the day you have to be able to win 1 on 1 battles anywhere they present themselves..

they shouldnt be able to protect with 5 and a back chipping if we bring 5.. so yes our interior DL have to be good but our pass rushers need to be dominant
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Been watching a lot more Dennard tape...very impressed. He's like a combination of Joe Haden and Brandon Flowers.

If we landed Dennard in the 1st and a Jordan Matthews, Allen Robinson or Moncrief in the 2nd, id be over the moon.
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In fact, my dream scenario would be;

1: Dennard
2: Benjamin

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i might be the only person here that doesnt like dennard

id love any of those WR's i the 2nd, though
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i might be the only person here that doesnt like dennard

id love any of those WR's i the 2nd, though
I dont like Dennard, but i dont hate dennard
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i'd rather trade up 4 spots using a future 3rd and grab evans / barr or gilbert if they're there

obv ideal is trading back
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Everyone keeps saying that Ebron won't make it past 15. A part of me feels as if he is there, he will be the pick. TIFWIW, if Jones wasn't on the board last year, there were rumors of Eifert being the pick. Could they take the TE now and the WR later? I just can't wait till the draft because I'm getting anxious on what they'll do.

There are also rumors of Dennard falling. Could he fall to the second?
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Highly doubt Dennard falls. I think they love him, could be a smoke screen but the steelers generally dont do that.

Im conflicted with Ebron vs Benjamin...you are essentially getting similar size/abilities/upsides with both
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As much as I don't like their drops, they are playmakers and game changers. I'd take Ebron at 15.
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As much as I don't like their drops, they are playmakers and game changers. I'd take Ebron at 15.
yeah i think ebron has a slight edge for me vs benjy... maily his versatility of being able to be lined up as a TE, in the slot, in the backfield out of the gun, or out wide.

i wouldnt be upset with benjy though at 15 if all my other players are gone
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I wouldn't be against the Steelers shocking everyone and taking Shazier.
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ebron at 15 and matthews at 47 would be sick.
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he just feels like a tomlin type of player
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This year, there is no clear guy the Steelers can go with because they have been linked to so many.


Odell Beckham
Eric Ebron
Kelvin Benjamin
Ryan Shazier
Darqueze Dennard
Justin Gilbert
Taylor Lewan

Those are just the few they have been linked to in the first round alone. This is gonna be a crazy draft day!
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This year, there is no clear guy the Steelers can go with because they have been linked to so many.


Odell Beckham
Eric Ebron
Kelvin Benjamin
Ryan Shazier
Darqueze Dennard
Justin Gilbert
Taylor Lewan

Those are just the few they have been linked to in the first round alone. This is gonna be a crazy draft day!
not to mention the obvious ones if they fall

i hate the fact the draft is 2 weeks later this year. cant wait
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I think marquise Lee is being really underrated cause of a injury and horrible qb play ... Lee is just so natural playing WR and his 40 time doesn't effect me his tape shows he's plenty fast enough
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I love Lee, was watching some of his 2012....man he was great

This time last year if you said the steelers might have a shot at Lee at 15 i would have called you crazy
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I wouldn't be against the Steelers shocking everyone and taking Shazier.
The way we draft buckeyes wouldnt surpsie me one bit...and the way they wanted Mychal Kendricks.

I think Shazier will be an impact player, he and timmons would be tough to handle on an inside cross blitz. Im pretty Meh on mosely

Id rather get Borland in the second round, or maybe Van Noy

Any links to anthony barr? Id love him to fall
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no links to barr that i know of...

but then again we had no links to mendy when he fell, and i dont think we had any on decastro either...

some of the cream of the crop guys you dont waste visits on, their tapes tells you all you need to know
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Ebron and Lee both have horrible drop problems. Id have;

1: Benjamin
2: Lee
3: Ebron

Benjamin and Lee have both got immense potential imo. I'm not really an Ebron fan tbh, i think he's pretty average. I dont want a small-ish tight end with spotty hands and average at run blocking at #15 overall.
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As much as i like Vince Williams, Shazier would be soooo sexxi next to Timmons!
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Jarvis Landry= Hines Ward. He'd be a perfect fit here. Get Ebron round 1 and then Landry in round 5 or something since he's pretty slow.
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Ebron has a 11.4% drop rate, that makes DHB look great!
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