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Old 04-30-2014, 09:08 PM    (permalink
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This randomly popped into my head today when I was supposed to be studying. But anyway what do you guys think is the more impressive accomplishment for a GM? To build a dynasty and win multiple super bowls in a short time. (think 2000s Pats, 1990s Cowboys etc, etc.) Or to build 2 super bowl teams in different decades with a few amount of people on both teams. (think 2000 and 2012 Ravens, only Ray Lewis was on both teams and Ray really wasnt an elite player on 2012 team.) I obviously am biased because I think only Ozzie did the second topic but I want to see what other people have to say.
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I picked dynasty just because I think it's harder to achieve sustained success in a short period of time than it is to have two good season separated by a large period of time.

With the championship in two different decades you have the ability to bottom out or go through a rebuilding effort. I think winning back to back championships, which most dynasty's have, is one of the hardest things two do in sports.
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This is a good question.

Is the second Championship with a different QB than the first? If that's the case I'd go with that.

Both are obviously incredibly impressive.
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yes it is. I am using the Ravens as an example. We have had about 1000000 QBs in between the super bowl wins. Only Ray Lewis was on both teams and he was a team leader but not one of the better players during the second run.
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Ozzie was the primary architect of the McAlister/Starks team also?
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yeah he has been in charge since day 1. He just changed his title in 2002 to GM though.
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So who was the GM and what was his position before that?
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We didn't have a technical GM I don't think. Ozzie just changed his title name for whatever reason
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Yeah, Newsome was the Director of Football Operations with Baltimore from 1996-2001 and then he officially became the general manager after the 2001 season. Nobody held the title of general manager before that (for the Ravens at least, I don't know what the situation was like in Cleveland before the move).
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I like the 2 SBs in 2 different decades.
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Building two super bowl teams > building one super bowl team and getting lucky enough to have them win back-to-back
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Needs more of Matt Millen's accomplishments as an option.
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Really intelligent people learn to adapt with the times, so building a team to win once a decade is certainly a great feat, it's no-dynasty. What the Pats did was crazy, that's not just 1 title every ten years. Which again is by no means not also a great achievement, just not as impressive.
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Depends on what you mean by dynasty and in what era you are talking about. If you are talking celtics style dynasty that is more impressive. But if you are talking about the capless NFL version of Dynasty or MLB Dynasty I think the fact you are able to keep your job over a decade is impressive add you were able to win a championship in those years.
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How many GM's have won a Super Bowl with a different squad? I can only think of Ozzie Newsome in recent history. I guess Al Davis as well. John McVay during his time with the 49ers, but I don't know how much power he had compared to Walsh who was essentially the GM at the time as well. And he stayed with the organization when Seifert even took over.
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For a GM, I say two wins so far away. Ozzie built 2 completely different teams so far apart while being good enough to keep his job. He always keeps the pantry full with talent players too.

A dynasty is more impressive overall but specifically for a GM two wins apart is more impressive. A dynasty is hard because it takes a lot of talent and keeping them together for the short term. The pre cap dynasty aren't as impressive to me just because they could keep all the talent they get.
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I think we can't use dynasty in the typical way of multiple superbowl wins. It's incredibly hard to just get to the superbowl, multiple years in a row.

What the Pats did is incredible, not winning, though that helps, but getting to what 5 superbowl. 4 were within a decade, 3 wins in four years. We don't even see teams make it back to the superbowl now.
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Dynasty. It's harder to maintain than it is to rebuild.
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As a Pats fans I feel as though I am obviously biased but i have to go with dynasty.

For me, being able to build a team good enough to win a Superbowl is a great accomplishment, but teams can get really hot at the most important time and win. However, once you win the Superbowl you have a target on you and every team you play gets extra motivated because they want to defeat the defending champs. Constant winning also means that your players will want compensated for helping build a winning team. it is so hard to keep a championship team together for a number of years, especially in the last decade before the rookie wage cap came in.

If you can sustain success despite teams circling your game on the calender every week, losing big players to FA and having to pick further down the draft for me that is unparralled in terms of success.

I appreciate the argument isn't simply stating that teams who win but GMs. As we saw with the Colts if a team bottoms out there is generally a clean out of management.

What Ozzie has done is remarkable, however I think anyone who can sustain such a high level of play over 10-15 years like Belichick has done is almost impossible.

Once again I am biased but that's how I would look at it.
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Couldn't you say repeating has more to do with the coach then the GM? Ozzie had a different everything including HC.
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Couldn't you say repeating has more to do with the coach then the GM? Ozzie had a different everything including HC.
I think the are obviously mitigating circumstances in different scenarios. You could argue coaching has a greater impact in repeating, however player acquisition and contract negotiating are also extremely important. I mean, there is some really good coaches in the NFL who simply don't have the talent to work with. It's why the bad teams stay bad.

There is a lot to look through when deciding what is more important. if you think coaching is more important you could argue the overall decision to hire the coach is down to the GM as well.

I think when looking at good teams they all have a lot in common:

Strong leadership throughout
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Good internal scouting of their own players - ie don't let their top players go unless contract demands become damaging to the team
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Good player leadership
Luck

You would do really well to find a team who has won one Superbowl in the last 20 years who weren't run well in the above areas while also getting a little luck along the way.

Look at the Seahawks last year. They are a really well run team who have been able to nurture their own stars, but being able to turn guys like Wilson, Sherman, Kam etc into stars requires a little luck. Same with the Pats and being able to get guys like Brady, Asante Samuel etc later in the draft
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guys start leaving when they win and get bigger contracts, opening up holes that you need to make smart savvy cheap vet signings and draft to fill. Much harder. Not even really close, IMO
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This is an interesting conversation (despite homerness, Ravens!)

I think I have to cast my vote for dynasty, simply because having that target on your back and dealing with the trials and difficulties of repeating that others have described above is near-impossible without spying on your opponents. Whereas ringing up a ring, as uber-impressive as it is, can come about through momentum, peak seasons from great players, chemistry, etc. Doing it twice (or more) in a short period removes any 'fluke' conversation.
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Going to devolve into pure pedantry here:

The poll should say SB victories a decade APART. You could technically win back to back SB with the same exact team and they could be in different decades.
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The pre cap dynasty aren't as impressive to me just because they could keep all the talent they get.
While this is true all the good teams remained good every year. So those dynasties like the 49ers and Steelers, and Cowboys continually had to go up against the same stacked teams every year.
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