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Old 05-15-2014, 12:23 PM    (permalink
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The first murder indictment and now this one with two people involved - just wow.

The sad thing is that there is a possibility of two more murder charges in Florida before this is all said and done.
The guy is an idiot obviously. I hope he gets death if proven guilty. He had everything he wanted and chose to be a serial killer. I wonder if defense tries to claim some sort of insanity.
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This time police have the murder weapon and have linked it to Hernandez. Not having the weapon was the only reason people thought he'd get off for the Odin Lloyd murder.
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The guy is an idiot obviously. I hope he gets death if proven guilty. He had everything he wanted and chose to be a serial killer. I wonder if defense tries to claim some sort of insanity.
The only way he's going to die for these alleged crimes is by having the Florida case actually come to fruition and then the feds would have to take interest. Massachusetts is a no death penalty state.
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The only way he's going to die for these alleged crimes is by having the Florida case actually come to fruition and then the feds would have to take interest. Massachusetts is a no death penalty state.
Unfortunately, I really look forward to supporting Aaron Hernandez's living situation for the rest of his life.
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The only way he's going to die for these alleged crimes is by having the Florida case actually come to fruition and then the feds would have to take interest. Massachusetts is a no death penalty state.
Actually, even though Massachusetts is a no death penalty state, if they decide to try it as a federal case, he could face the death penalty because federal law trumps state law.

And MassNole, very often, getting the death penalty is MUCH more expensive than life in prison. A lot of times, lawyers will agree to not appeal the decision if the death penalty is taken off the table. If a guy gets the death penalty, first they'll appeal the verdict, then they'll appeal the sentance. then it goes to state courts, district courts, circuit courts, and even the Superme Court. Housing and feeding a guy in prison is a heck of a lot cheaper than running a trial.
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:50 PM    (permalink
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Actually, even though Massachusetts is a no death penalty state, if they decide to try it as a federal case, he could face the death penalty because federal law trumps state law.

And MassNole, very often, getting the death penalty is MUCH more expensive than life in prison. A lot of times, lawyers will agree to not appeal the decision if the death penalty is taken off the table. If a guy gets the death penalty, first they'll appeal the verdict, then they'll appeal the sentance. then it goes to state courts, district courts, circuit courts, and even the Superme Court. Housing and feeding a guy in prison is a heck of a lot cheaper than running a trial.
I understand the appellate system and believe that it could be much more stream lined to effectuate justice without spending millions of dollars in appeals. For starters, knock the mid-level Appellate State Courts out of the equation and send all cases for appeal right to the top court. From there, stream line on a federal level to remove intermediary rounds of appeals for capital cases. Give an automatic 5-10 year stay of execution for any new evidence to come up with very firm rules of evidence in place as to what should have been reasonably discovered the first time through. Don't think defense attorneys don't sit on some of this to bring up later when they know they'll lose a trial but want to fight the death penalty.

Finally for the Justice Organizations that take on these cases. If deemed by a court to have brought forward a frivolous secondary appeal then leave the representing attorneys firms or organization on the hook to repay the state's costs for appeal (mirror the civil rules here basically). In the end you have a more cost effective system that doesn't allow for bogus claims to come up late to inflate state costs without restitution to the state. For many of those organizations their methodology to get states to drop the death penalty is to make it cost too much by overly dragging out the process and purposefully over burdening the state's resources to then use against them.
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Massachusetts is a Commonwealth, not a state.
Isn't that a distinction without a difference?

I have no idea, I'm asking. Like Erik Walden, I'm just an incompetent fool who's running around on this Earth sucking up precious oxygen.
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Isn't that a distinction without a difference?

I have no idea, I'm asking. Like Erik Walden, I'm just an incompetent fool who's running around on this Earth sucking up precious oxygen.
It goes back to Colonial times. In terms of how the other 46 non-Commonwealth states see it there is no difference other than philosophical.
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Isn't that a distinction without a difference?

I have no idea, I'm asking. Like Erik Walden, I'm just an incompetent fool who's running around on this Earth sucking up precious oxygen.
LOL where did the shot at Walden come from?
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There is no difference. Massachusetts says the are a Commonwealth but there is absolutely no difference. They are a state just like the other 49 states in the USA.
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There is no difference. Massachusetts says the are a Commonwealth but there is absolutely no difference. They are a state just like the other 49 states in the USA.
There are differences. I just think they're mostly minor. I live in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and it causes certain differences. Like the fact that I can't purchase beer anywhere (like grocery and convenience stores.) And I can't purchase liquor anywhere except at the bar or "State store" and the "State Store" isn't open on Sundays.
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Can't buy alcohol here on Sundays either but that is just because Indiana is stupid.
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I'm starting to feel bad for the Pats. They did everything they could to cut themselves from him immediately when he got arrested. They cut him and did the jersey exchange. But he will always be former New England Patriot Aaron Hernandez.
No reason to feel bad for us. We made a mistake, and I don't think anyone fully understood even with some character concerns pre draft that this guy was a cold blooded killer.
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Can't buy alcohol here on Sundays either but that is just because Indiana is stupid.
This is literally the worst rule in any state. Whats worse are states that only allow the sales of alcohol at dispensaries as opposed to grocery stores, gas stations, etc...
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Can't buy alcohol here on Sundays either but that is just because Indiana is stupid.
I don't even understand the point of that law. Is it because of the religious down day factor? It's not like you're Mormons.
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I always presumed it was some religious rule that somehow got turned into a law. Otherwise I have no idea why it exists
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