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Old 05-02-2007, 06:54 PM    (permalink
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Na. That could very well be our season. Who knows. I won't write off any possibility. We can do great, we can do horrible. Both are realistic possibilities.
Come on man, I want to see your baseless conjecture. I've put myself out there, the least you could do is join into the fray.
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y does everyone have the steelers doin so porely
all they did was lose joey
and thats it
ya bill is gone but still they got a great coach in tomlin
and im sorry but the bengals didnt really help themselves
the browns did somewhat but r very young and wont be good for a few years
and the ravens r the ravens
they r gettin old and need to rebuild soona nd i dont think they will be that good

bein a homer i have the steelers winnin the division
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y does everyone have the steelers doin so porely
all they did was lose joey
and thats it
ya bill is gone but still they got a great coach in tomlin
and im sorry but the bengals didnt really help themselves
the browns did somewhat but r very young and wont be good for a few years
and the ravens r the ravens
they r gettin old and need to rebuild soona nd i dont think they will be that good

bein a homer i have the steelers winnin the division
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Come on man, I want to see your baseless conjecture. I've put myself out there, the least you could do is join into the fray.
This is very preliminary. I didn't get a chance to analyze everyone's drafts in detail yet. And for those asking, yes, the homer in me refused to put the Gmen at the bottom of the NFC East. I can't do it. I just can't do it.

AFC East

1. New England - 12-4 (these mofos are due for some bad luck, Im not gonna hand them the SB just yet)
2. New York - 7-9
3. Buffalo - 7-9
4. Miami - 4-12

AFC North

1. Cincinnati - 12-4
2. Baltimore - 11-5
3. Cleveland - 7-9
4. Pittsburgh - 6-10

AFC South

1. Jacksonville - 13-3
2. Indianapolis - 10-6
3. Houston - 9-7
4. Tennessee - 3-13

AFC West

1. Denver - 10-6
2. San Diego - 7-9
3. Oakland - 7-9
4. Kansas City - 4-12

NFC East

1. Philadelphia - 12-4
2. New York - 8-8
3. Washington - 6-10
4. Dallas - 6-10

NFC North

1. Green Bay - 10-6
2. Chicago - 9-7
3. Detroit - 6-10
4. Minnesota - 5-11

NFC South

1. Carolina - 10-6
2. Atlanta - 9-7
3. New Orleans - 7-9
4. Tampa Bay - 5-11

NFC West

1. Arizona - 10-6
2. St Louis - 9-7
3. Seattle - 8-8
4. San Francisco - 7-9
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I honestly see the Panthers winning our division. Even with the mess of injuries we had (2nd most in the NFL) we finished 8-8 went 5-1 yes, 5-1 in the division including a sweep of New Orleans and Tampa Bay.

We can do better now we've got a much easier schedule, play our toughest opponents are home and are healthy.
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This is very preliminary. I didn't get a chance to analyze everyone's drafts in detail yet. And for those asking, yes, the homer in me refused to put the Gmen at the bottom of the NFC East. I can't do it. I just can't do it.

AFC East

1. New England - 12-4 (these mofos are due for some bad luck, Im not gonna hand them the SB just yet)
2. New York - 7-9
3. Buffalo - 7-9
4. Miami - 4-12

AFC North

1. Cincinnati - 12-4
2. Baltimore - 11-5
3. Cleveland - 7-9
4. Pittsburgh - 6-10

AFC South

1. Jacksonville - 13-3
2. Indianapolis - 10-6
3. Houston - 9-7
4. Tennessee - 3-13

AFC West

1. Denver - 10-6
2. San Diego - 7-9
3. Oakland - 7-9
4. Kansas City - 4-12

NFC East

1. Philadelphia - 12-4
2. New York - 8-8
3. Washington - 6-10
4. Dallas - 6-10

NFC North

1. Green Bay - 10-6
2. Chicago - 9-7
3. Detroit - 6-10
4. Minnesota - 5-11

NFC South

1. Carolina - 10-6
2. Atlanta - 9-7
3. New Orleans - 7-9
4. Tampa Bay - 5-11

NFC West

1. Arizona - 10-6
2. St Louis - 9-7
3. Seattle - 8-8
4. San Francisco - 7-9
Notes:
  • Why are you so low on San Francisco? I have them and Arizona flipped.
  • We have the same NFC South, AFC West, AFC East, AFC North.
  • I do not like Green Bay, actually. I have them pegged for last place in fact.
  • I also don't see eye to eye with you on Dallas, care to elaborate?
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What has Green Bay done to improve themselves? Sign Frank Walker? I was all for calling them the biggest threat to the Bears in January but I'm not so sure now.
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Well, here's mine.

AFC East

1. New England - 12-4
2. New York - 8-8
3. Buffalo - 8-8
4. Miami - 4-12

AFC North

1. Baltimore - 11-5
2. Cincinnati - 10-6
3. Pittsburgh - 8-8
4. Cleveland - 6-10

AFC South

1. Indianapolis - 12-4
2. Jacksonville - 11-5
3. Houston - 8-8
4. Tennessee - 4-12

AFC West

1. Denver - 10-6
2. San Diego - 7-9
3. Kansas City - 6-10
4. Oakland - 5-11

NFC East

1. Philadelphia - 12-4
2. Washington - 7-9
3. Dallas - 7-9
4. New York - 6-10

NFC North

1. Chicago - 9-7
2. Green Bay - 9-7
3. Minnesota - 6-10
4. Detroit - 5-11

NFC South

1. Atlanta - 10-6
2. Carolina - 10-6
3. New Orleans - 7-9
4. Tampa Bay - 4-12

NFC West

1. St Louis - 10-6
2. Arizona - 8-8
3. Seattle - 8-8
4. San Francisco - 8-8
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Notes:
  • Why are you so low on San Francisco? I have them and Arizona flipped.
  • We have the same NFC South, AFC West, AFC East, AFC North.
  • I do not like Green Bay, actually. I have them pegged for last place in fact.
  • I also don't see eye to eye with you on Dallas, care to elaborate?
San Fransisco:

-I don't like their offseason moves. I think their FA signings are overrated. They overpaid for a bunch of average talent. They still haven't addressed NT yet they plan on switching to the 3-4 fulltime.

-Losing Norv turner will hurt this team. Even if they replace his Xs and Os, they can't replace his mentoring

-I personally feel they still haven't addressed their WR position adequately

-Theyre simply not there yet. They need another year of development. While everyone praises Alex Smith, they forget that he really didn't have THAT great of a year. I mean come on, he did ok, but not great. Frank Gore, who is their offense, is too fumble prone and is one hit away from calling his career a wrap, and I just feel that theyre not strong enough on the lines to win at the point of attack.

Green Bay
- I think they make the leap this year. Theyve had solid offseasons, and their defense is on its way to being pretty darned good. I just think that if anyone is gonna overtake the Bears, its gonna be GB. Just a hunch sort of thing. Detroit lacks character. And Minny hates its coach. Theres gonna be a huge revolt in that lockerroom, Coughlin style.


Dallas:
- TO in year 2
- TO with a spineless HC who's arrogant
- Weak dline
- Aging WRs
- Too much negative media attention without a strong coach to handle it
- JJ will meddle in affairs much more now without BP in the way
- Parity....too healthy last year. They won't have the same luck 2 years in a row.

Again, its all very preliminary, and I didn't put too much thought into it. I sort of just did it on the fly.
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I hate the off-season.
I love it....

You get to find out who the idiots are...like the Skins fans last year that were putting them at the top of their division...and we got to shove it down their throat all season.
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What has Green Bay done to improve themselves? Sign Frank Walker? I was all for calling them the biggest threat to the Bears in January but I'm not so sure now.
A young team will improve itself with experience. When youre young, you don't necessarily need extra players to get better. Experience should help improve the units as a whole by itself.

Plus year 2 under a new HC.

Im basing alot of my predictions on the simple law of parity.

What goes up must eventually fall down right? Theres gotta be at least 4 underachievers, and 4 overachievers every year.
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y does everyone have the steelers doin so porely
all they did was lose joey
and thats it
ya bill is gone but still they got a great coach in tomlin
and im sorry but the bengals didnt really help themselves
the browns did somewhat but r very young and wont be good for a few years
and the ravens r the ravens
they r gettin old and need to rebuild soona nd i dont think they will be that good

bein a homer i have the steelers winnin the division
All you did was lose Joey...and lose cowher....

for everything the bengals didn't do to help themselves, or however old the ravens are, what did Pittsburgh to do get better? I don't think teams need a good offseason to necesarily be better, but its not like you guys did much more than the Bengals...

Besides the losses you mentioned are losses from a team that didn't have a winning record, and missed the playoffs, so maybe that's why people have the Steelers "doin so porely"
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AFC East

1. New England - 12-4
2.Buffalo- 8-8
3. New York - 8-8
4. Miami - 4-12

AFC North

1. Cincinnati - 11-5
2. Baltimore - 10-6
3. Pittsburgh - 7-9
4. Cleveland - 6-10

AFC South


1. Indianapolis - 12-4
2. Jacksonville - 9-7
3. Houston - 8-8
4. Tennessee - 4-12

AFC West

1. Denver - 11-5
2. San Diego - 10-6
3. Oakland - 6-10
4. Kansas City - 5-11

NFC East

1. Philadelphia - 10-6
3. Dallas - 8-8
3. Washington - 7-9
4. New York - 6-10

NFC North

1. Chicago - 10-6
2. Green Bay - 9-7
3. Detroit - 5-11
4. Minnesota - 5-11

NFC South

1. New Orleans - 11-5
2. Atlanta - 9-7
3. Carolina - 8-8
4. Tampa Bay - 4-12

NFC West


1. St Louis - 10-6
2. Seattle - 8-8
3. Arizona - 8-8
4. San Francisco - 7-9
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All the Steelers did was lose Joey Porter? Huh, apparently there's no need to mention that: (1) the team lost both its offensive coordinator and more importantly its offensive line coach; (2) aging veterans are now a year older; and (3) with Cowher and Wisenhunt gone, there's no one to get the most out of Roethlisberger. That is, when he's not naming or gestering to (phantom) injuries whenever he makes another bone-headed play.
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EDIT- ill do it, but itll be quick

AFC North
1.Bengals- 11-5
2.Ravens-11-5
3.Steelers-9-7
4. Browns-5-11

AFC East-
1.Patriots-12-4
2.New York-9-7
3.Buffalo- 6-10
4 Miami-4-12

AFC South-
1. Indianapolis-11-5
2. Jacksonville- 9-7
3. Houston-7-9
4. Titans-4-12

AFC West-
1.San Diego- 14-2
2. Denver-10-6
3. Kansas City- 6-10
4. Oakland- 4-12


NFC North-
1.Chicago- 12-4
2. Green Bay- 9-7
3. Detriot- 7-9
4. Minnesota- 5-11

NFC East
1. Philly- 11-5
2. Dallas- 10-6
3. Washington- 7-9
4. New York- 6-10

NFC South
1. Carolina- 11-5
2. New Orleans- 9-7
3. Atlanta-7-9
4. Tampa Bay- 5-11

NFC West-
1. St. Louis- 10-6
2. San Fransisco- 7-9
3. Arizona- 7-9
Seattle- 5-11
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A young team will improve itself with experience. When youre young, you don't necessarily need extra players to get better. Experience should help improve the units as a whole by itself.

Plus year 2 under a new HC.

Im basing alot of my predictions on the simple law of parity.

What goes up must eventually fall down right? Theres gotta be at least 4 underachievers, and 4 overachievers every year.
Fair enough, I just think there's enough longterm shelflife in this team to sustain us for one more year. I think some people are forgetting how far beyond the Bears were from the other teams in the NFC North (let alone the rest of the NFC) last year. In the last two years in games that counted for something (ie: games where we weren't starting backups) the Bears are 10-0 against the NFC North generally with a double-digit margin of victory.

Obviously things change, and their differential in talent is already shifting, but I think we've got at least one more year at the top of the division, even if it's not locked up by week 12 this time around.
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AFC

1. Patriots 11-5
2. Bills 10-6
3. Jets 10-6
4. Dolpins 7-9

1. Steelers 10-6
2. Ravens 9-7
3. Bengals 8-8
4. Browns 6-10

1. Colts 12-4
2. Jaguars 9-7
3. Titans 6-10
4. Texans 4-12

1. Chargers 13-3
2. Broncos 11-5
3. Chiefs 9-7
4. Raiders 3-13

NFC

1. Cowboys 12-4
2. Eagles 8-8
3. Redskins 8-8
4. Giants 5-11

1. Bears 10-6
2. Packers 8-8
3. Vikings 8-8
4. Lions 5-11

1. Saints 11-5
2. Panthers 9-7
3. Bucaneers 6-10
4. Falcons 6-10

1. Rams 11-5
2. 49ers 9-7
3. Seattle 7-9
4. Cardinals 6-10
AFC PLayoffs: Colts, Pats, Chargers, Steelers
WC: Bills, Broncos
NFC: Cowboys, Saints, Bears, Rams
WC: Panthers, NINERS
SUBER BOWL: Broncos v. Rams
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AFC North
1.Bengals- 11-5
2.Ravens-11-5
3.Steelers-9-7
4. Browns-5-11

AFC East-
1.Patriots-12-4
2.New York-9-7
3.Buffalo- 6-10
4 Miami-4-12

AFC South-
1. Indianapolis-11-5
2. Jacksonville- 9-7
3. Houston-7-9
4. Titans-4-12

AFC West-
1.San Diego- 14-2
2. Denver-10-6
3. Kansas City- 6-10
4. Oakland- 4-12


NFC North-
1.Chicago- 12-4
2. Green Bay- 9-7
3. Detriot- 7-9
4. Minnesota- 5-11

NFC East
1. Philly- 11-5
2. Dallas- 10-6
3. Washington- 7-9
4. New York- 6-10

NFC South
1. Carolina- 11-5
2. New Orleans- 9-7
3. Atlanta-7-9
4. Tampa Bay- 5-11

NFC West-
1. St. Louis- 10-6
2. San Fransisco- 7-9
3. Arizona- 7-9
Seattle- 5-11

you really think seattle will be that bad?
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you really think seattle will be that bad?
in a word, yes. aim not reallya fan of them, they have no big playmakers on offense, and matt hassellbeck is inconsitent and overrated. They also have a pretty bad secondary.
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1. Patriots 8-8
2. Jets 8-8
3. Dolphins 8-8
4. Bills 8-8

1. Ravens 8-8
2. Bengals 8-8
3. Browns 8-8
4. Steelers 8-8

1. Colts 8-8
2. Jaguars 8-8
3. Titans 8-8
4. Texans 8-8

1. Chargers 8-8
2. Broncos 8-8
3. Chiefs 8-8
4. Raiders 8-8

NFC

1. Cowboys 8-8
2. Eagles 8-8
3. Redskins 8-8
4. Giants 8-8

1. Packers 16-0
2. Vikings 8-8
3. Lions 8-8
4. Bears 0-16

1. Saints 8-8
2. Panthers 8-8
3. Bucaneers 8-8
4. Falcons 8-8

1. Cardinals 8-8
2. Rams 8-8
3. Seattle 8-8
4. 49ers 8-8


Can someone check to see if the math is sound?
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in a word, yes. aim not reallya fan of them, they have no big playmakers on offense, and matt hassellbeck is inconsitent and overrated. They also have a pretty bad secondary.
I'm not too high on them either, but I just think that they have enough to get more than 5 wins if they can stay healthy
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