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Old 07-15-2006, 01:05 PM    (permalink
 
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Hutchinson's loss won't be anywhere near the impact some of you are thinking. Alexander will still be a top back. The only reason he won't be a top back is because he got his contract. Before his 2 contract years Alexander was just a good back. Then there was money on the line and he was dominant.
you are seriously underrating how good Hutch is.
I know Hutch is a top 2 guard in the league, but to think one guard will have that much of an effect on a RB is crazy.

He is going to have a effect on the whole damn offense. Watch and see.
no not really.
It could have a big effect, we don't know yet. It could have no effect either, we don't know yet. I just think it will have some effect, though I don't know to what degree.
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no not really.
Then why was your team prepared to pay him $49 million dollars?
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no not really.
Then why was your team prepared to pay him $49 million dollars?
cuz we want him back? Gee i don't know, i mean, i think you would want to at least try and sign the BEST GUARD in football. You're not to bright are you.

However he will have an effect, but it won't be of a significant magnitude
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cuz we want him back? Gee i don't know, i mean, i think you would want to at least try and sign the BEST GUARD in football. You're not to bright are you.

However he will have an effect, but it won't be of a significant magnitude
If his loss isn't that significant, your team was very stupid to try to re-sign him for 7 million per year. 7 million is far too much for someone who doesn't impact the team much.

Either the Seahawks are stupid, or you are wrong and it will have a very negative effect.

"You're not to [sic] bright" how ironic.
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Unless your RB is Jesus then losing the best Guard in Football is going to hurt. The question is how much. Around -200 yards or such I woud say, because of Hutch.
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Unless your RB is Jesus then losing the best Guard in Football is going to hurt. The question is how much. Around -200 yards or such I woud say, because of Hutch.
Even Jesus can't sustain the loss of Hutch. I think they overpaid Alexander, but you can't let the NFL's best RB in 2005 off of your team. It was either give him the big contract or let him walk. They could have had this as an option if they had a stud in the waiting, sort of like the Cheifs did with Larry Johnson or if something happened to Rudi, the Bengals have Chris Perry. Not saying they should have drafted a RB in round 1, but it doesn't hurt to have a backup with a lot of potential.
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Unless your RB is Jesus then losing the best Guard in Football is going to hurt. The question is how much. Around -200 yards or such I woud say, because of Hutch.
Loss of Hutchinson: -200 yards
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I think there's going to be some dropoff in his production this year. Any time you lose an offensive lineman with the talent of Hutchinson, if always affects the running backs game.
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Unless your RB is Jesus then losing the best Guard in Football is going to hurt. The question is how much. Around -200 yards or such I woud say, because of Hutch.
Even Jesus can't sustain the loss of Hutch. I think they overpaid Alexander, but you can't let the NFL's best RB in 2005 off of your team. It was either give him the big contract or let him walk. They could have had this as an option if they had a stud in the waiting, sort of like the Cheifs did with Larry Johnson or if something happened to Rudi, the Bengals have Chris Perry. Not saying they should have drafted a RB in round 1, but it doesn't hurt to have a backup with a lot of potential.
I think you're right on with that. There were plenty of talented RB's in the draft and even available in UDFA.
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I think Maurice Morris is highly underrated, they resigned him and rightfully so.
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There's definitely going to be some dropoff. Of course, when most people cite examples of times where players lost production after losing a Guard, those teams didn't necessarily have a LT in Walter Jones, or the sort of passing attack that the Seahawks have. And despite what some people think, the passing attack for Seattle always sets up the run. So, we'll see what happens.
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Not just "all-pro," Hutchinson was the best interior lineman in the NFL hands down.
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Don't go disrespecting Alan Faneca, now. Hutchinson is a better pass blocker, but that's pretty much irrelevant for a discussion about Alexander. Faneca is an absolute monster. Largely responsible for the Super Bowl's longest run ever, too.
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Don't go disrespecting Alan Faneca, now. Hutchinson is a better pass blocker, but that's pretty much irrelevant for a discussion about Alexander. Faneca is an absolute monster. Largely responsible for the Super Bowl's longest run ever, too.
how much has ever been offered?
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Huh?
you're proclaiming him to be the best in football, so has he ever been offered anywhere near as much as Hutch was?
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He signed a $26 million/6 year contract extension in 2002.
1) Faneca wasn't as proven then as hutchinson is at this point
2) the 2002 salary cap was far smaller than it is now
3) the vikings overpaid a guard; we all know that
4) hutchinson might be better than faneca because he is a more complete guard, but he isn't "far and away" the best.
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Faneca isn't as good as Hutch. I'd have Faneca as my #2 ranked guard though. Probably my number 1 in run blocking.
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That's pretty much what I said. I object to the "Hutchinson is the best guard hands down" because it implies a huge gap.
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Brian Waters, he's just as complete as Hutchinson , tell me why hes not if u dont think so
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He is gonna get hurt.
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Exactly. And yodachu is on the ball. I'm saying Week 4, Lance Briggs knocks him out of it.
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As far as best guard goes, it is close between Hutchinson and Waters. Both are excellent pass blockers, but I'd say Hutchinson is a better run blocker and is better at pulling on sweeps. Waters lets in almost no sacks though, he is pretty ridiculous.
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As far as best guard goes, it is close between Hutchinson and Waters. Both are excellent pass blockers, but I'd say Hutchinson is a better run blocker and is better at pulling on sweeps. Waters lets in almost no sacks though, he is pretty ridiculous.
Shields>Waters.
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As far as best guard goes, it is close between Hutchinson and Waters. Both are excellent pass blockers, but I'd say Hutchinson is a better run blocker and is better at pulling on sweeps. Waters lets in almost no sacks though, he is pretty ridiculous.
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