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Old 07-25-2006, 05:06 PM    (permalink) 
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Grossman by a wide margin. When he stops getting hurt he's going to be a big time QB.
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Oh my, this poll reminds me why someone said that if Randle El signs with the Bears and Favre retires, Randle El will be the best QB in that division.
Randle El better than rodgers or grossman.. i dont think so.
How many passes has he thrown? 16. You can't judge a QB on a half a game's worth of throws. If he were that good, he would be playing QB right now.
who r u talking about there?
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Oh my, this poll reminds me why someone said that if Randle El signs with the Bears and Favre retires, Randle El will be the best QB in that division.
Randle El better than rodgers or grossman.. i dont think so.
How many passes has he thrown? 16. You can't judge a QB on a half a game's worth of throws. If he were that good, he would be playing QB right now.
who r u talking about there?
Randle El
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Oh my, this poll reminds me why someone said that if Randle El signs with the Bears and Favre retires, Randle El will be the best QB in that division.
Randle El better than rodgers or grossman.. i dont think so.
How many passes has he thrown? 16. You can't judge a QB on a half a game's worth of throws. If he were that good, he would be playing QB right now.
who r u talking about there?
Randle El
so.... you were talking to immaculate tackle..?
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Oh my, this poll reminds me why someone said that if Randle El signs with the Bears and Favre retires, Randle El will be the best QB in that division.
Randle El better than rodgers or grossman.. i dont think so.
How many passes has he thrown? 16. You can't judge a QB on a half a game's worth of throws. If he were that good, he would be playing QB right now.
You obviously dont realize that he was more than just a good runner in college. Im not saying that hes better than rodgers or grossman but he can throw.
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Oh my, this poll reminds me why someone said that if Randle El signs with the Bears and Favre retires, Randle El will be the best QB in that division.
Randle El better than rodgers or grossman.. i dont think so.
How many passes has he thrown? 16. You can't judge a QB on a half a game's worth of throws. If he were that good, he would be playing QB right now.
who r u talking about there?
Randle El
so.... you were talking to immaculate tackle..?
Yes. Know what... I just realized he said "this reminds me why someone said..." I thought he was just saying Randle El was better than all these guys... so... my mistake.
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Oh my, this poll reminds me why someone said that if Randle El signs with the Bears and Favre retires, Randle El will be the best QB in that division.
Randle El better than rodgers or grossman.. i dont think so.
How many passes has he thrown? 16. You can't judge a QB on a half a game's worth of throws. If he were that good, he would be playing QB right now.
You obviously dont realize that he was more than just a good runner in college. Im not saying that hes better than rodgers or grossman but he can throw.
I know, I know. I was talkin to tackle, but I didn't read the post good. See the post before this one.
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Oh my, this poll reminds me why someone said that if Randle El signs with the Bears and Favre retires, Randle El will be the best QB in that division.
Randle El better than rodgers or grossman.. i dont think so.
How many passes has he thrown? 16. You can't judge a QB on a half a game's worth of throws. If he were that good, he would be playing QB right now.
who r u talking about there?
Randle El
so.... you were talking to immaculate tackle..?
Yes. Know what... I just realized he said "this reminds me why someone said..." I thought he was just saying Randle El was better than all these guys... so... my mistake.
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Mush signed on with the Bears BECAUSE of Grossman, liked him that much. I have a feeling Grossman is better than he has shown.
He is. Grossman has a hell of an arm, people tend to forget that. The problem is that his decision making skills haven't evolved as he hasn't been on the field that much. I'm not a huge Grossman fan, but as far as the poll is concerned I have to go with him because in terms of sucess the Bears are primed for a very good 4-5 year run and you can't say that about any other team right now.
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Mush signed on with the Bears BECAUSE of Grossman, liked him that much. I have a feeling Grossman is better than he has shown.
He is. Grossman has a hell of an arm, people tend to forget that. The problem is that his decision making skills haven't evolved as he hasn't been on the field that much. I'm not a huge Grossman fan, but as far as the poll is concerned I have to go with him because in terms of sucess the Bears are primed for a very good 4-5 year run and you can't say that about any other team right now.
their offense still has a bunch of questions.
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Mush signed on with the Bears BECAUSE of Grossman, liked him that much. I have a feeling Grossman is better than he has shown.
He is. Grossman has a hell of an arm, people tend to forget that. The problem is that his decision making skills haven't evolved as he hasn't been on the field that much. I'm not a huge Grossman fan, but as far as the poll is concerned I have to go with him because in terms of sucess the Bears are primed for a very good 4-5 year run and you can't say that about any other team right now.
their offense still has a bunch of questions.
Of course it does. If you define "success" in terms of offensive production then it probably won't be Grossman. If you define it in terms of team wins I'm going with whomever is starting for the Bears.
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Mush signed on with the Bears BECAUSE of Grossman, liked him that much. I have a feeling Grossman is better than he has shown.
He is. Grossman has a hell of an arm, people tend to forget that. The problem is that his decision making skills haven't evolved as he hasn't been on the field that much. I'm not a huge Grossman fan, but as far as the poll is concerned I have to go with him because in terms of sucess the Bears are primed for a very good 4-5 year run and you can't say that about any other team right now.
their offense still has a bunch of questions.
Of course it does. If you define "success" in terms of offensive production then it probably won't be Grossman. If you define it in terms of team wins I'm going with whomever is starting for the Bears.
Yeah but i think think you gotta go by offensive production, he seems to be asking what individual will do better, not what team, atleased the way i look at it, and in that cause i could say rodgers mot likely.
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Mush signed on with the Bears BECAUSE of Grossman, liked him that much. I have a feeling Grossman is better than he has shown.
He is. Grossman has a hell of an arm, people tend to forget that. The problem is that his decision making skills haven't evolved as he hasn't been on the field that much. I'm not a huge Grossman fan, but as far as the poll is concerned I have to go with him because in terms of sucess the Bears are primed for a very good 4-5 year run and you can't say that about any other team right now.
their offense still has a bunch of questions.
Of course it does. If you define "success" in terms of offensive production then it probably won't be Grossman. If you define it in terms of team wins I'm going with whomever is starting for the Bears.
Yeah but i think think you gotta go by offensive production, he seems to be asking what individual will do better, not what team, atleased the way i look at it, and in that cause i could say rodgers mot likely.
What offensive pieces do the Packers have to build around?
Samkon Gado?
Greg Jennings?

Right now I would say the Bears have better/younger skill players than the Packers do.
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Right now I would say the Bears have better/younger skill players than the Packers do.
I agree, Grossman, Benson, and Bradley are going to be good players.
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Mush signed on with the Bears BECAUSE of Grossman, liked him that much. I have a feeling Grossman is better than he has shown.
He is. Grossman has a hell of an arm, people tend to forget that. The problem is that his decision making skills haven't evolved as he hasn't been on the field that much. I'm not a huge Grossman fan, but as far as the poll is concerned I have to go with him because in terms of sucess the Bears are primed for a very good 4-5 year run and you can't say that about any other team right now.
their offense still has a bunch of questions.
Of course it does. If you define "success" in terms of offensive production then it probably won't be Grossman. If you define it in terms of team wins I'm going with whomever is starting for the Bears.
Yeah but i think think you gotta go by offensive production, he seems to be asking what individual will do better, not what team, atleased the way i look at it, and in that cause i could say rodgers mot likely.
What offensive pieces do the Packers have to build around?
Samkon Gado?
Greg Jennings?

Right now I would say the Bears have better/younger skill players than the Packers do.
Greg will be solid i think, i dunno about gado in the ZBS. But yeah i agree with you the packers will now need to turn their focus mainly to their offensive improvment now that they have a solid Defensive group. But you also have to remember that rodgers also has not became the starter yet and their offense is not set on what he will have to work with in the future. As for now they are working on rebuilding their O-line ,when that is set they will turn to skill players, if they can maybe pick up another reciever, and RB in the near future their offense could be pretty decent with players vets liek bubba, driver, and maybe a few new players will start living up to their potential like fergeson or Marc Boerigter.
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