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Old 06-03-2007, 11:54 PM    (permalink
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Why must we argue about which two (or three or four) players would win in a race? It's all hearsay, and considering we are all talking about players who run in the 4.3's, they would finish incredibly close.
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He was pretty useless, he could possibly convert but it would take a godlike coach and if Chicago's other WRs are any indication they're not exactly the best coaches in that area.
That's funny....the Panthers have developed Steve Smith and......how bout that Kerry Colbert?
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I can't believe we're three pages into this thread, and nobody has mentioned the difference between timed speed and game speed.
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Old 06-04-2007, 07:17 AM    (permalink
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That's funny....the Panthers have developed Steve Smith and......how bout that Kerry Colbert?
How bout that spelling..

How about Well, I think I'll take Steve Smith, Mushin Muhummad, Drew Carter, DeShaun Foster and DeAngelo williams over one receiver who went downhill after a good rookie year.

That's one compared to about 5 players who're all good receivers.
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The entire Raiders CB rotation is blazing fast. Fabian Washington, Stanford Routt, and John Bowie are all track stars
What about Asomugha? Isn't he kinda important?
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:30 PM    (permalink
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How bout that spelling..

How about Well, I think I'll take Steve Smith, Mushin Muhummad, Drew Carter, DeShaun Foster and DeAngelo williams over one receiver who went downhill after a good rookie year.

That's one compared to about 5 players who're all good receivers.
DeShaun Foster and DeAngelo Williams are receivers?

Muhsin Muhammad (der der..how bout that spelling..******* jackass) was drafted when? 1996? The current staff developed him how?

Drew Carter? That is your argument for them developing recievers? You're joking right? What has Drew Carter done that Rashied Davis or Mark Bradley hasn't?
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you time him over and over? who are u to say he runs a 4.4 flat when thats not accurate

hes done between 4.27 and 4.51 and supposivly, he had new shoes he never wore and said he nearly cried after that time
I'm a die hard canes fan, I live 5 minutes from his where he grew up, I went to the same camps as him, watched him run the 40 in person numerous times, I watched him play in person 20+ times, talked to him a few times, watched almost every time he has touched the ball the past 4 years. I know his game pretty damned well.
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What about Asomugha? Isn't he kinda important?
He ran a 4.45 at the combine, so he's not on the same level, but I think being 6-2 and 213 is a decent enough excuse.
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DeShaun Foster and DeAngelo Williams are receivers?

Muhsin Muhammad (der der..how bout that spelling..******* jackass) was drafted when? 1996? The current staff developed him how?

Drew Carter? That is your argument for them developing recievers? You're joking right? What has Drew Carter done that Rashied Davis or Mark Bradley hasn't?
When did Muhsin have his best year? In 2004, under which staff? The current one.

Look at Steve Smith, and Drew Carter was drafted in the 6th round.

Rashied Davis has caught 2 NFL passes, Drew Carter has been a game breaker in the slot for the Panthers in the past. In his first year as a full time third receiver he's had better production than those two, so that's how they're different.

My argument for Developing receivers is that we haven't, the ones we have Steve Smith and Drew Carter have turned out fine, Colbert is difficult to say because in his rookie year he did well, but has been heading for bust town ever since after spending one year injured and the next buried on the depth chart. This year is his make or break.
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Drew Carter

28 357 12.8 42 3 5 1 14

Rashied Davis

22 303 13.8 3 1 2 6 0 16

6 more catches, 55 more yards, less YPC, and 1 less touchdown.
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