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Eli will play better, but the statistics won't show it. He'll be more consistent, more accurate, and have less bad decisions. But he won't have cupcake defenses to pad his stats with, like he did last season. To see his progress, you'll have to read between the lines. So no, he will not out-perform his Brother next year.
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08-02-2006, 06:36 PM
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Eli & Tiki vs Peyton & Joseph is more like it
boy the colts will lose there edge
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you really hate the colts dont you? Addai and rhodes will combine for at least 1300 yards and Peyton will have an MVP type season while Eli will probably do the same as last year just with a few less picks and a little higher completion percentage.
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no i dont hate the colts i hate that the colts let james go
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they couldnt afford him. its not like they just let him walk
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keep james over wanye
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it easier to find running backs in the draft than it is recievers and losing wayne would be a bigger hit to our offense. I would rather have Peyton, Rhodes/Addai, Marvin, Reggie and Stokley than Peyton, Edge, Marvin, Stokley and Chad Jackson.
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08-02-2006, 06:38 PM
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Eli & Tiki vs Peyton & Joseph is more like it
boy the colts will lose there edge
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you really hate the colts dont you? Addai and rhodes will combine for at least 1300 yards and Peyton will have an MVP type season while Eli will probably do the same as last year just with a few less picks and a little higher completion percentage.
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no i dont hate the colts i hate that the colts let james go
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Try to understand the salary cap. Resigning Edge=losing Dwight Freeney, and Freeney is a far more valuable player than Freeney.
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im not taking freeney whihc they may not even keep
im say wayne - james over wanye how did james get paided by the cardz
and how much did the colts pay wayne im not sure
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Freeney will stay. he has said time and time again he wants to stay in Indianapolis and we will have enough money to keep him.
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08-02-2006, 06:43 PM
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Eli & Tiki vs Peyton & Joseph is more like it
boy the colts will lose there edge
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you really hate the colts dont you? Addai and rhodes will combine for at least 1300 yards and Peyton will have an MVP type season while Eli will probably do the same as last year just with a few less picks and a little higher completion percentage.
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no i dont hate the colts i hate that the colts let james go
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Try to understand the salary cap. Resigning Edge=losing Dwight Freeney, and Freeney is a far more valuable player than Freeney.
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I agree, Freeney makes Freeney look bad.
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08-02-2006, 06:53 PM
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Eli & Tiki vs Peyton & Joseph is more like it
boy the colts will lose there edge
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you really hate the colts dont you? Addai and rhodes will combine for at least 1300 yards and Peyton will have an MVP type season while Eli will probably do the same as last year just with a few less picks and a little higher completion percentage.
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no i dont hate the colts i hate that the colts let james go
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Try to understand the salary cap. Resigning Edge=losing Dwight Freeney, and Freeney is a far more valuable player than Freeney.
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I agree, Freeney makes Freeney look bad.
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08-02-2006, 08:30 PM
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Is this a joke? Peyton always has been and always will be better that Eli.
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08-02-2006, 08:30 PM
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Eli & Tiki vs Peyton & Joseph is more like it
boy the colts will lose there edge
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you really hate the colts dont you? Addai and rhodes will combine for at least 1300 yards and Peyton will have an MVP type season while Eli will probably do the same as last year just with a few less picks and a little higher completion percentage.
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no i dont hate the colts i hate that the colts let james go
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Try to understand the salary cap. Resigning Edge=losing Dwight Freeney, and Freeney is a far more valuable player than Freeney.
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I agree, Freeney makes Freeney look bad.
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You put your laughing smilies in my genius quote. :(
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08-02-2006, 09:17 PM
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Eli & Tiki vs Peyton & Joseph is more like it
boy the colts will lose there edge
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you really hate the colts dont you? Addai and rhodes will combine for at least 1300 yards and Peyton will have an MVP type season while Eli will probably do the same as last year just with a few less picks and a little higher completion percentage.
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no i dont hate the colts i hate that the colts let james go
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Try to understand the salary cap. Resigning Edge=losing Dwight Freeney, and Freeney is a far more valuable player than Freeney.
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im not taking freeney whihc they may not even keep
im say wayne - james over wanye how did james get paided by the cardz
and how much did the colts pay wayne im not sure
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you dont make any sense!!!!
i cant believe people tolerate this...wow!
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08-02-2006, 09:42 PM
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As much as i'd love to say Eli....Peyton will have the better season.
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08-02-2006, 10:07 PM
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Eli & Tiki vs Peyton & Joseph is more like it
boy the colts will lose there edge
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you really hate the colts dont you? Addai and rhodes will combine for at least 1300 yards and Peyton will have an MVP type season while Eli will probably do the same as last year just with a few less picks and a little higher completion percentage.
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no i dont hate the colts i hate that the colts let james go
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Try to understand the salary cap. Resigning Edge=losing Dwight Freeney, and Freeney is a far more valuable player than Freeney.
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I agree, Freeney makes Freeney look bad.
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You put your laughing smilies in my genius quote. :(
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I fixed it. Freeney is more valuable than Edge blah, blah, blah. You got my point.
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08-02-2006, 10:09 PM
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Is this a serious question?
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08-03-2006, 12:33 AM
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Peyton for sure, people on this site are obsessed with Eli, ok mainly Giants fans, but he hasn't done anything really noteworthy except get a lot of yards, which Kerry Collins did his whole career, so it's not that great of an accomplishment. His accuracy is terrible, as is another qb who is hated on this site, Michael Vick. Eli's accuracy is terrible, and that brings his whole qb rating down, so no he won't have a statistically better season than Peyton will. Better than last year? Probably, but until his accuracy picks up I will not consider him close to what his brother is.
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08-03-2006, 12:36 AM
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Is this a joke? Peyton always has been and always will be better that Eli.
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08-03-2006, 01:18 AM
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maybe in two or three years I will take this question seriously.
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08-03-2006, 06:27 AM
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Peyton for sure, people on this site are obsessed with Eli, ok mainly Giants fans, but he hasn't done anything really noteworthy except get a lot of yards, which Kerry Collins did his whole career, so it's not that great of an accomplishment. His accuracy is terrible, as is another qb who is hated on this site, Michael Vick. Eli's accuracy is terrible, and that brings his whole qb rating down, so no he won't have a statistically better season than Peyton will. Better than last year? Probably, but until his accuracy picks up I will not consider him close to what his brother is.
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Eli is far better then Collins....
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08-03-2006, 06:48 AM
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Peyton for sure, people on this site are obsessed with Eli, ok mainly Giants fans, but he hasn't done anything really noteworthy except get a lot of yards, which Kerry Collins did his whole career, so it's not that great of an accomplishment. His accuracy is terrible, as is another qb who is hated on this site, Michael Vick. Eli's accuracy is terrible, and that brings his whole qb rating down, so no he won't have a statistically better season than Peyton will. Better than last year? Probably, but until his accuracy picks up I will not consider him close to what his brother is.
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Please don't compare Eli to Vick. Vick has been in the league for 5 years now. Eli 2. You will see the progression this season. Mostly because Eli is a student of the game and has half a brain in his head and Vick isn't a student of the game and doesn't have half a brain in his head.
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08-03-2006, 07:23 AM
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IMO, Eli has been a better player than his brother at every stage of his career. I'm not talking about stats, either. He was better in college, he was a better prospect coming out, and he was a better rookie. I think it makes sense because he is just as, if not more physically gifted than Peyton, and he's not only benefited from their father, but by learning from Peyton as well. He's basically "Manning 3.0". I think he will end up being the better QB when it's all said and done, but no way will he be better than Peyton this year.
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You got to be kidding. Peyton was better in college. Eli was never in a position to win the national champtionship.
Peyton had 26 TD passes his rookie season, a 90 QB rating his second. Eli hasn't even come close to those numbers.
Peyton plays at least half of his games inside or in nice weather while Eli has to play in windy Giants stadium and play in Philadelphia and Washington every year.
Who cares if Eli has all those passing yards. Passing yards is a very overrated stat. No QB has ever won a Super Bowl while leading the league in passing yards.
The Eli fangirls are such an embarrassment to Giant fans.
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08-03-2006, 07:28 AM
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IMO, Eli has been a better player than his brother at every stage of his career. I'm not talking about stats, either. He was better in college, he was a better prospect coming out, and he was a better rookie. I think it makes sense because he is just as, if not more physically gifted than Peyton, and he's not only benefited from their father, but by learning from Peyton as well. He's basically "Manning 3.0". I think he will end up being the better QB when it's all said and done, but no way will he be better than Peyton this year.
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You got to be kidding. Peyton was better in college. Eli was never in a position to win the national champtionship.
Peyton had 26 TD passes his rookie season, a 90 QB rating his second. Eli hasn't even come close to those numbers.
Peyton plays at least half of his games inside or in nice weather while Eli has to play in windy Giants stadium and play in Philadelphia and Washington every year.
Who cares if Eli has all those passing yards. Passing yards is a very overrated stat. No QB has ever won a Super Bowl while leading the league in passing yards.
The Eli fangirls are such an embarrassment to Giant fans.
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Your username is an embarassment to Giants fans.
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08-03-2006, 07:56 AM
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I think it stems from the fact that the NFL put them up against each other Week 1 on the big NBC game.
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I think it stems from the fact that the NFL put them up against each other Week 1 on the big NBC game.
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Still there is no reason to say that Eli will do better than Peyton.
Tell you what, all of the Giants fans have been writing off Eli's problems saying he is young and still learning. Thats fine after 2 years but is that still going to be the excuse next offseason if he doesn't improve greatly this year?
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I think it stems from the fact that the NFL put them up against each other Week 1 on the big NBC game.
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Still there is no reason to say that Eli will do better than Peyton.
Tell you what, all of the Giants fans have been writing off Eli's problems saying he is young and still learning. Thats fine after 2 years but is that still going to be the excuse next offseason if he doesn't improve greatly this year?
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I don't think so. The third year is always the big step in a QBs development historically if you look at all the greats. Not every young QB is put on a great team and is expected to just throw 15-18 passes a game. I'm expecting a big improvement this year and if not I'll be dissapointed. I'm not going to be happy if I'm waiting in year 6 for Eli to come around like Falcons fans are with Vick.
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I think it stems from the fact that the NFL put them up against each other Week 1 on the big NBC game.
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I think it stems from the fact the giants are the biggest homers on this board.
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08-03-2006, 08:43 AM
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I think it stems from the fact that the NFL put them up against each other Week 1 on the big NBC game.
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I think it stems from the fact the giants are the biggest homers on this board.
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Not really. I think it just still bugs the Skins and Cowgirls fans that we came away with the East last year, and upgraded our team just enough to probably still be considered favorites.
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