Best defense in the NFL - Page 2

The Unseen · 09-17-2006, 08:05 PM

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I mean they did play with Seattle.

That was due to their defense, not their offense. They only scored 6 points.

09-17-2006, 08:05 PM

Chicago, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, San Diego, Seattle

bearsfan_51 · 09-17-2006, 08:06 PM

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Not sure right now. Ravens, Bears, and Chargers are impressive so far, but all against bad teams so far.

Detroit is not a bad team. They're an average team and I'll keep saying that.

I mean they did play with Seattle.

They're a solid offensive team and a solid defensive team.

The Lions are a below average team. If by average we're saying the 13th to 19th best team in the NFL. The Dolphins, for example, are an average team.

IBleedNavyandOrange · 09-17-2006, 08:12 PM

Baltimore is looking very intimidating right now, while the Bears are struggling to get consistent pressure on the QB, the defensive backfield isn't gelling quite yet (though it seems to be improved over last year), and the unit as a whole isn't tackling well.

The homer in me says Bears.

The objective, rational part of me says you can't decide after just two games. Maybe after four. There's just not enough of a sample to make a determination yet. On stats alone, I think it's the Ravens.

Though Pittsburgh and San Diego are looking very good, I think Baltimore and Chicago are a big step above the rest of the league. Which, come to think of it, is how it should be.

09-17-2006, 08:14 PM

Baltimore looks good, but they played two teams who are really are struggling on offense. Oakland and Tampa Bays O-Lines have been dismal. Now I'm not saying they're bad, but I wanna see them versus a top tier opponent. THe same could be said about Chicago, but the difference is they proved themselves last year.

I have Pitt ahead of Baltimore still, Lebeau's scheme works wonders, and is constantly bringing pressure, forcing turnovers and I think is second only to the bears

bearsfan_51 · 09-17-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by IBleedNavyandOrange

Baltimore is looking very intimidating right now, while the Bears are struggling to get consistent pressure on the QB, the defensive backfield isn't gelling quite yet (though it seems to be improved over last year), and the unit as a whole isn't tackling well.

The homer in me says Bears.

The objective, rational part of me says you can't decide after just two games. Maybe after four. There's just not enough of a sample to make a determination yet. On stats alone, I think it's the Ravens.

Though Pittsburgh and San Diego are looking very good, I think Baltimore and Chicago are a big step above the rest of the league. Which, come to think of it, is how it should be.

I don't understand this pressure argument. We have 9 sacks in 2 games. How much pressure do you want? They were in both Favre and Kitna's faces the last two weeks.

XxXdragonXxX · 09-17-2006, 09:59 PM

With as little homerism as I can use....I'm taking Seattle.

GB12 · 09-17-2006, 10:02 PM

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1. Bears
2. Chargers
3. Baltimore

One team that no one said is Pittsburgh. They have a great run D, and pass D is darn good too.

same top 3 but for now I'd have baltimore over SD

Number 10 · 09-17-2006, 10:06 PM

Chicago for 2 reasons.

1-Depth

2-Strong play in the trenches

09-17-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IBleedNavyandOrange

Baltimore is looking very intimidating right now, while the Bears are struggling to get consistent pressure on the QB, the defensive backfield isn't gelling quite yet (though it seems to be improved over last year), and the unit as a whole isn't tackling well.

The homer in me says Bears.

The objective, rational part of me says you can't decide after just two games. Maybe after four. There's just not enough of a sample to make a determination yet. On stats alone, I think it's the Ravens.

Though Pittsburgh and San Diego are looking very good, I think Baltimore and Chicago are a big step above the rest of the league. Which, come to think of it, is how it should be.

I don't understand this pressure argument. We have 9 sacks in 2 games. How much pressure do you want? They were in both Favre and Kitna's faces the last two weeks.

Both of those offensive lines are terrible though. I'll know if they're good when they face Minnesota. Especially the left side with Hutchinson and McKinnie.

sweetness34 · 09-17-2006, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by IBleedNavyandOrange

Baltimore is looking very intimidating right now, while the Bears are struggling to get consistent pressure on the QB, the defensive backfield isn't gelling quite yet (though it seems to be improved over last year), and the unit as a whole isn't tackling well.

The homer in me says Bears.

The objective, rational part of me says you can't decide after just two games. Maybe after four. There's just not enough of a sample to make a determination yet. On stats alone, I think it's the Ravens.

Though Pittsburgh and San Diego are looking very good, I think Baltimore and Chicago are a big step above the rest of the league. Which, come to think of it, is how it should be.

I don't understand this pressure argument. We have 9 sacks in 2 games. How much pressure do you want? They were in both Favre and Kitna's faces the last two weeks.

Both of those offensive lines are terrible though. I'll know if they're good when they face Minnesota. Especially the left side with Hutchinson and McKinnie.

What do you mean "you'll know if we're good"? Our defense proved it last season. We don't need to "prove" anything. We just need to play better.

We were a top 3 defense last season.

VoteLynnSwan · 09-17-2006, 10:18 PM

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With as little homerism as I can use....I'm taking Seattle.

yea... well if that's the smallest amount you can use... then ST21 may not be the biggest homer on this site.

XxXdragonXxX · 09-17-2006, 10:27 PM

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yea... well if that's the smallest amount you can use... then ST21 may not be the biggest homer on this site.

You'll see.

P-L · 09-17-2006, 10:33 PM

The Bears' secondary is suspect right now, imo. They played pretty good, but not great against the Packers. They also let Jon Kitna shred them for 3 quarters, but I give them props for not letting up a TD. But the best front 7 in football will make up for the suspect secondary. I think they have the best with Baltimore, Carolina (when healthy), and San Diego not too far behind.

sweetness34 · 09-17-2006, 10:35 PM

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The Bears' secondary is suspect right now, imo. They played pretty good, but not great against the Packers. They also let Jon Kitna shred them for 3 quarters, but I give them props for not letting up a TD. But the best front 7 in football will make up for the suspect secondary. I think they have the best with Baltimore, Carolina (when healthy), and San Diego not too far behind.

From what it looked like to me, we played a soft cover 2. We allowed a lot in front of us but nothing behind. Probably in fear that Roy might get behind us.

With that being said though, our pass defense wasn't good. Too many open guys for my taste and no INT's.

Oh well, I'll take a 7 point score from the opponent any week.

Staubach12 · 09-17-2006, 10:36 PM

Chicago

nobodyinparticular · 09-17-2006, 10:48 PM

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San Diego for me. Amazing pressure with their front three and linebackers.

But their secondary sucks... Once they find a matchup against a good offensive line, they can get beaten deep pretty easily.

All in all though, they definitely have played very well this season. I'd just like to see them in a real test.

Nitschke-Hawk · 09-17-2006, 11:19 PM

I believe in Baltimore.

Tubby · 09-18-2006, 01:02 AM

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Seattle isn't the best, but they deserve to be an option.

Agreed....

I voted Chicago, but we've only allowed one touchdown too, and it was a garbage TD.

slightlyaraiderfan · 09-18-2006, 01:19 AM

The top defensive teams...Chicago, Chargers and Ravens have played nobody yet.

The Legend · 09-18-2006, 01:34 AM

Ravens stats in 2 weeks

Interception - 6
Fumbles - 5
Sacks - 9
Tackles - 114
(49 Tackles - Week One)
(65 Tackles - Week Two)

nobodyinparticular · 09-18-2006, 01:38 AM

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Baltimore looks good, but they played two teams who are really are struggling on offense. Oakland and Tampa Bays O-Lines have been dismal. Now I'm not saying they're bad, but I wanna see them versus a top tier opponent. THe same could be said about Chicago, but the difference is they proved themselves last year.

I have Pitt ahead of Baltimore still, Lebeau's scheme works wonders, and is constantly bringing pressure, forcing turnovers and I think is second only to the bears

Baltimore's offense looked horrid today against the Raiders. I mean downright pathetic.

The Legend · 09-18-2006, 01:40 AM

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Baltimore looks good, but they played two teams who are really are struggling on offense. Oakland and Tampa Bays O-Lines have been dismal. Now I'm not saying they're bad, but I wanna see them versus a top tier opponent. THe same could be said about Chicago, but the difference is they proved themselves last year.

I have Pitt ahead of Baltimore still, Lebeau's scheme works wonders, and is constantly bringing pressure, forcing turnovers and I think is second only to the bears

Baltimore's offense looked horrid today against the Raiders. I mean downright pathetic.

i dont thinks so i think that the raiders defence just look amazing

i think the raiders defence is good

BlindSite · 09-18-2006, 01:49 AM

Baltimore will be hard to go past now they've got a decent offense.

I think the top 5 will round out like this:

Chicago
Carolina
Tampa
Baltimore
Denver

The Legend · 09-18-2006, 01:52 AM

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Baltimore will be hard to go past now they've got a decent offense.

I think the top 5 will round out like this:

Chicago
Carolina
Tampa
Baltimore
Denver

i think they have some much confidence thats what is making the defence so good (also that great dline)