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Old 09-28-2006, 02:31 PM    (permalink
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1. Fedor
2. Hughes
3. Liddell
4. Silva
5. Franklin
6. Gomi
7. GSP
8. CroCop
9. Shogun
10. Kid Yamamoto

* I may have Shogun and Silva high, but what can I say, love chute boxe. CroCop looked flat out amazing, thats why I have him moving up. And I am very high on Yamamoto, just a personal feeling.
I just think you really overrate Chuck, his victory over Babalu was nice ut that is a great matchup for Chuck. Other then that he hasnt beaten much since he got destroyed by Rampage, hell Matt freakin Lindland KO'd Jeremy Horn about 3 rounds quicker than Chuck did
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My p4p List

1. Fedor
2. Hughes
3. Liddell
4. Silva
5. Franklin
6. Gomi
7. GSP
8. CroCop
9. Shogun
10. Kid Yamamoto

* I may have Shogun and Silva high, but what can I say, love chute boxe. CroCop looked flat out amazing, thats why I have him moving up. And I am very high on Yamamoto, just a personal feeling.
I just think you really overrate Chuck, his victory over Babalu was nice ut that is a great matchup for Chuck. Other then that he hasnt beaten much since he got destroyed by Rampage, hell Matt freakin Lindland KO'd Jeremy Horn about 3 rounds quicker than Chuck did
randy couture? tito (when he was good).
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My p4p List

1. Fedor
2. Hughes
3. Liddell
4. Silva
5. Franklin
6. Gomi
7. GSP
8. CroCop
9. Shogun
10. Kid Yamamoto

* I may have Shogun and Silva high, but what can I say, love chute boxe. CroCop looked flat out amazing, thats why I have him moving up. And I am very high on Yamamoto, just a personal feeling.
Cro cops too low.
Just my opinion. He is your boy tho, so maybe u want him too high. Who do you put below him? GSP maybe, but that is all I can see. Possibly Silva, but imo Silva is more dominant at 205 than CroCop at HW.
Cro Cops not my favorite fighter just my pick for the OWGP so thats not why I think he shoudl be up that far. But he essentially is the SECOND best P4P fighter in PRIDE he completely dominated wandy and tore up Josh Barnett who is a top 4 HW in the world. I think he goes ahead of Wandy.
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My p4p List

1. Fedor
2. Hughes
3. Liddell
4. Silva
5. Franklin
6. Gomi
7. GSP
8. CroCop
9. Shogun
10. Kid Yamamoto

* I may have Shogun and Silva high, but what can I say, love chute boxe. CroCop looked flat out amazing, thats why I have him moving up. And I am very high on Yamamoto, just a personal feeling.
I just think you really overrate Chuck, his victory over Babalu was nice ut that is a great matchup for Chuck. Other then that he hasnt beaten much since he got destroyed by Rampage, hell Matt freakin Lindland KO'd Jeremy Horn about 3 rounds quicker than Chuck did
randy couture? tito (when he was good).
Couture at the very trail end of his career, in his 40's, right before he retired. Once again, Chuck is probaly the worst matchup for Tito because Tito cant do much standing.
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I think if we were to see chuck against a technically sound striker, he would get picked apart. Nothing against him hes still a very good fighter. I just thinkt hats his weakness.
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I think if we were to see chuck against a technically sound striker, he would get picked apart. Nothing against him hes still a very good fighter. I just thinkt hats his weakness.
Bring on Bisping in a year, WAR BISPING!
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I think if we were to see chuck against a technically sound striker, he would get picked apart. Nothing against him hes still a very good fighter. I just thinkt hats his weakness.
Bring on Bisping in a year, WAR BISPING!

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I honestly think in a year, maybe 2, he'd give Chuck a good fight, he's very good on his feet, ask Cyrille Diabate.
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I honestly think in a year, maybe 2, he'd give Chuck a good fight, he's very good on his feet, ask Cyrille Diabate.
Did Bisping fight the snake?
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I honestly think in a year, maybe 2, he'd give Chuck a good fight, he's very good on his feet, ask Cyrille Diabate.
Did Bisping fight the snake?
They had a kickboxing match, Diabate won in the first extra round. But Bisping clearly has some good standup.

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"Bisping would also compete in another Light-Heavyweight cage kickboxing contest, against Cyrille Diabaté at CWFC Strike Force 1 on 21st May, 2005, with Diabaté victorious via decision after the end of the first extra round"
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Big thread on it at Sherdog

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showth...isping+diabate
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I honestly think in a year, maybe 2, he'd give Chuck a good fight, he's very good on his feet, ask Cyrille Diabate.
Did Bisping fight the snake?
They had a kickboxing match, Diabate won in the first extra round. But Bisping clearly has some good standup.

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The Snakes stand up loooked reaaaaaaaaaaaal good against Rua.
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Yeah I've heard that as well, thats why I think it's impressive Bisping took him to an extra round standing, even if Diabaté was "unmotivated". Unfortunately I cant find the fight to watch it myself, Youtube took it down.
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Yeah I've heard that as well, thats why I think it's impressive Bisping took him to an extra round standing, even if Diabaté was "unmotivated". Unfortunately I cant find the fight to watch it myself, Youtube took it down.
Well if Ninja had a hard time standing up with The Snake (even though he ended up stomping him out) That says alot about bisping being able to stand up with him for that long. The Snakes stand up was one of the most impressing things to me from that whole PPV. Bisping is one of my favorite TUF fighters I cant wait to see him in the octagon.
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Yeah I've heard that as well, thats why I think it's impressive Bisping took him to an extra round standing, even if Diabaté was "unmotivated". Unfortunately I cant find the fight to watch it myself, Youtube took it down.
Well if Ninja had a hard time standing up with The Snake (even though he ended up stomping him out) That says alot about bisping being able to stand up with him for that long. The Snakes stand up was one of the most impressing things to me from that whole PPV. Bisping is one of my favorite TUF fighters I cant wait to see him in the octagon.
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Just been reading about Bisping over at Sherdog, he's fighting in November and it's been rumoured it's going to be either Sakara, Gouveia or Eric Schafer. I thought he would be fed a can for his first fight, I guess not. Sakara or Gouveia for your UFC official debut (not counting Haynes) would be rough!
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Yeah I've heard that as well, thats why I think it's impressive Bisping took him to an extra round standing, even if Diabaté was "unmotivated". Unfortunately I cant find the fight to watch it myself, Youtube took it down.
Well if Ninja had a hard time standing up with The Snake (even though he ended up stomping him out) That says alot about bisping being able to stand up with him for that long. The Snakes stand up was one of the most impressing things to me from that whole PPV. Bisping is one of my favorite TUF fighters I cant wait to see him in the octagon.
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Just been reading about Bisping over at Sherdog, he's fighting in November and it's been rumoured it's going to be either Sakara, Gouveia or Eric Schafer. I thought he would be fed a can for his first fight, I guess not. Sakara or Gouveia for your UFC official debut (not counting Haynes) would be rough!
Well I guess they are figuring Jardine beat Gouveia so Bisping should be able to seeing as he actually won TUF where Jardine did not. Although Gouveia or Sakara are not no Bill Mahood which is the can forrest griffin got his first UFC fight against.
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It'll be nice to see Bisping fight against a guy that doesn't have 30 pounds of flab hanging off his sides like Haynes did.
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It'll be nice to see Bisping fight against a guy that doesn't have 30 pounds of flab hanging off his sides like Haynes did.
haha, haynes was such a joke.
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It'll be nice to see Bisping fight against a guy that doesn't have 30 pounds of flab hanging off his sides like Haynes did.
haha, haynes was such a joke.
Yeah, Hamel vs Bisping shoudla been the fight at the end that whole LHW class was a joke.
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It'll be nice to see Bisping fight against a guy that doesn't have 30 pounds of flab hanging off his sides like Haynes did.
haha, haynes was such a joke.
I wonder if he'll be any better now that he's down to 185...he still wants to drop down to 170 so he's probably still out of shape.
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It'll be nice to see Bisping fight against a guy that doesn't have 30 pounds of flab hanging off his sides like Haynes did.
haha, haynes was such a joke.
Yeah, Hamel vs Bisping shoudla been the fight at the end that whole LHW class was a joke.
Hamil is just like Koscheck imo, if he gets stand up, he can be a really good fighter. I actually think Koscheck is going to be really good in a few years because his stand up looked much improved in his last fight, and we all know he can dominate a fight with his wrestling. I can see him contending for a title somewhat soon.
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Speaking of the TUF 3 guys...Grove, Herman and Hamill will be fighting some UFC rookies on Spike, October 10.

Grove vs. Chris Price
Herman vs. Jason McDonald
Hamill vs. Seth Petruzelli (from TUF 2, lost in the semi's)

Rory Singer and Josh Haynes will be fighting eachother as well, but it probably won't be shown on TV.


Not a very exciting card for Ortiz vs. Shamrock 3...The main event will probably end early, And then there's a bunch of rookies fighting eachother. They could have atleast put Bisping against Hamill, since that's how the TUF 3 final should have been anyway.
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Speaking of the TUF 3 guys...Grove, Herman and Hamill will be fighting some UFC rookies on Spike, October 10.

Grove vs. Chris Price
Herman vs. Jason McDonald
Hamill vs. Seth Petruzelli (from TUF 2, lost in the semi's)

Should be pretty easy for the TUF 3 guys.

Rory Singer and Josh Haynes will be fighting eachother as well, but it probably won't be shown on TV.
Seth Petruzelli was one of my favorites from TUF 2. I bet Rory Singer dominates Haynes. I wonder what kind of meat skirt Haynes has now that hes at MW.
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Speaking of the TUF 3 guys...Grove, Herman and Hamill will be fighting some UFC rookies on Spike, October 10.

Grove vs. Chris Price
Herman vs. Jason McDonald
Hamill vs. Seth Petruzelli (from TUF 2, lost in the semi's)

Rory Singer and Josh Haynes will be fighting eachother as well, but it probably won't be shown on TV.


Not a very excting card for Ortiz vs. Shamrock 3...The main event will probably end early, And then there's a bunch of rookies fighting eachother. They could have atleast put Bisping against Hamill, since that's how the TUF 3 final should have been anyway.
Bisping is fighting on the Hughes vs GSP Monson vs Sylvia card.
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Bisping is fighting on the Hughes vs GSP Monson vs Sylvia card.
Who's he fighting?
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