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Old 10-02-2006, 02:29 PM    (permalink
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Homerism or not Ike Taylor should be on the top 10 either this season or next.

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Chris McAlister should get some mention...anyone who has watched him thus far knows what I'm talking about. I'm not being a homer.

-He shut down Galloway - 0 catches - and he has a 50 yard INT return for TD
-Randy Moss only had 2 catches against him
-Cleveland Game: he makes the play of the game as he intercepted a Frye pass that gave the Ravens the ball back.
-Today: Goes up against McCardell and he has 0 catches
And during Crunch time last season Ike Taylor shut down Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Rod Smith and Darrell Jackson. Not to mention how many people during the season. if the Kid had a pair of hands he'd be great with INT's but he can't catch a cold. However, his physicallity and coverage abilities are on par with almost every guy everyone is putting on their top 10 list. I would say he's a much more raw Marcus Trufant. So he should be getting some top 10 love.
Ike is defintely on the way to becoming an elite CB. He has shut down Chad Johnson, what 4 times in the last 2 years? He has the same problem as Newman though, he doesn't get alot of INTs or have a loudmouth so he doesn't get the hype.
yea the kid doesn't have hands whatsoever. He dropped a gimme INT against miami. But when we need him most he comes up big (INT during the Ryan Clark hit on Chris Henry)
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I'm a skins fan and I say that Terrance Newman is the real deal.. In a year or maybe by next he will be the top CB in the leage but right now I believe that it is Hall. Bailey is overated with a capital 'O'. Don't get me wrong he is good, but what has he done lately that people are all over his pills for?


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Newman is a legit elite corner, as is Leigh Bodden. As for Ike Taylor, he has been eaten alive this season, I have seen two games and he definitely didn't look the part of an 'elite' corner.
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I'm a skins fan and I say that Terrance Newman is the real deal.. In a year or maybe by next he will be the top CB in the leage but right now I believe that it is Hall. Bailey is overated with a capital 'O'. Don't get me wrong he is good, but what has he done lately that people are all over his pills for?


My rankings as of right now are

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3. Newman
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lol he was a fianlist in dmvp last year..and he was injured with a disloacted shoulder...no he is healthy teams are not really even testing him...so i guess tacking half thje field away is nothing... :roll:
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Newman is a legit elite corner, as is Leigh Bodden. As for Ike Taylor, he has been eaten alive this season, I have seen two games and he definitely didn't look the part of an 'elite' corner.
If you consider Leigh Bodden an elite corner, may I ask who else you consider elite?
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I'd take D Hall over anyone else. Champ, Lucas, and Winfield are my other top guys.
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You all are all over DeAngelo Halls jock right now. Rashean Mathis is amazing. Him and D Hall will be the best in a couple of years.
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im a Chris McAlister fan so i will go with as he is my fav cb also he was never tackle by a tight end :D
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im a Chris McAlister fan so i will go with as he is my fav cb also he was never tackle by a tight end :D
tacking that in consideration i would go out on a limb and argue that ben watson is probally faster then chris mccallister....
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I'm a skins fan and I say that Terrance Newman is the real deal.. In a year or maybe by next he will be the top CB in the leage but right now I believe that it is Hall. Bailey is overated with a capital 'O'. Don't get me wrong he is good, but what has he done lately that people are all over his pills for?


My rankings as of right now are

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3. Newman
4. Mathis
5. Bailey

lol he was a fianlist in dmvp last year..and he was injured with a disloacted shoulder...no he is healthy teams are not really even testing him...so i guess tacking half thje field away is nothing... :roll:





He was a finalist because of his name.. You as a Broncos fan should know that Baily isn't better (right now) than the other guys I listed.. Notice I didn't list put Lucas up there because he has sucked ass. Be unbiased for once..
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I'm a skins fan and I say that Terrance Newman is the real deal.. In a year or maybe by next he will be the top CB in the leage but right now I believe that it is Hall. Bailey is overated with a capital 'O'. Don't get me wrong he is good, but what has he done lately that people are all over his pills for?


My rankings as of right now are

1. Hall
2. McCallister
3. Newman
4. Mathis
5. Bailey

lol he was a fianlist in dmvp last year..and he was injured with a disloacted shoulder...no he is healthy teams are not really even testing him...so i guess tacking half thje field away is nothing... :roll:
He was a finalist because of his name.. You as a Broncos fan should know that Baily isn't better (right now) than the other guys I listed.. Notice I didn't list put Lucas up there because he has sucked ass. Be unbiased for once..
are you a stathead or have you not noticed that no one throws at him anymore? speaking of "unbiased" :roll:

we won't even go into last year as you've clearly got little to no idea what makes a good cornerback because youre too blinded by champ-sucksism.

yet another person who hasn't added anything interesting to a conversation.
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I'm a skins fan and I say that Terrance Newman is the real deal.. In a year or maybe by next he will be the top CB in the leage but right now I believe that it is Hall. Bailey is overated with a capital 'O'. Don't get me wrong he is good, but what has he done lately that people are all over his pills for?


My rankings as of right now are

1. Hall
2. McCallister
3. Newman
4. Mathis
5. Bailey



lol he was a fianlist in dmvp last year..and he was injured with a disloacted shoulder...no he is healthy teams are not really even testing him...so i guess tacking half thje field away is nothing... :roll:





He was a finalist because of his name.. You as a Broncos fan should know that Baily isn't better (right now) than the other guys I listed.. Notice I didn't list put Lucas up there because he has sucked ass. Be unbiased for once..
Lucas is a top 3 corner right now.

I don't know where everyone is getting this "Deangelo hall is the most amazing corner ever" crap.

I guess everyone just believes everything he says.
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Newman is a legit elite corner, as is Leigh Bodden. As for Ike Taylor, he has been eaten alive this season, I have seen two games and he definitely didn't look the part of an 'elite' corner.
If you consider Leigh Bodden an elite corner, may I ask who else you consider elite?
Bailey
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Ken Lucas has sucked so bad against the run this year to the point that a rookie will be starting over him...
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Newman is a legit elite corner, as is Leigh Bodden. As for Ike Taylor, he has been eaten alive this season, I have seen two games and he definitely didn't look the part of an 'elite' corner.
If you consider Leigh Bodden an elite corner, may I ask who else you consider elite?
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Most overrated corner: Nate Clements. He's oft-targeted, teams throw towards him, they do not fear him at all.
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i think ken lucas is one of the more underatted corners in the league.
Still unde when he is benched for a 2nd or 3rd round rookie because his tackling sucks?
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im a Chris McAlister fan so i will go with as he is my fav cb also he was never tackle by a tight end :D
tacking that in consideration i would go out on a limb and argue that ben watson is probally faster then chris mccallister....
what you smoking can i get some of that?

chris is one of the fastest cb out there

and your trying to say Ben is faster?????

oh ya but realy can i get smoke of that

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gotta go with Champ, he's been the best or one of the best CBs in the league every year for a long time now. He is a big time playmaker but also doesnt get beat often, he tackles well and he has all the tools.

But I gotta show love to my boy Ken Lucas, one of the most underrated players out there.
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i think ken lucas is one of the more underatted corners in the league.
Still unde when he is benched for a 2nd or 3rd round rookie because his tackling sucks?
Where did you ever get the idea Ken Lucas' tackling sucks? IMO, he's the best run support/hard hitting CB in the league.
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