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Old 11-26-2006, 04:10 PM    (permalink
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Wilfork and Harris are not 3-4 DEs.
i find it funny as you dont think they could play 3-4

i have no doubt they could play 3-4 ends
Explain to me why a 3-4 NT would play 3-4 DE and why a penetrating DT could play 3-4 DE?
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Mario should be able to fill that role in a few years. Right now he sucks.
A little harsh, considering he's their most, and only, productive D-Lineman.
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Mario should be able to fill that role in a few years. Right now he sucks.
A little harsh, considering he's their most, and only, productive D-Lineman.
Watching him today he got beat time after time. He was terrible in the run game and got pressure maybe twice. Babin looked a lot better than him.
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Wilfork and Harris are not 3-4 DEs.
i find it funny as you dont think they could play 3-4

i have no doubt they could play 3-4 ends
Why would you put Wilfork at DE in the 3-4? It makes no sense at all.

Tommie Harris could play DE but he won't be as productive as a DT in the 4-3.
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Wilfork and Harris are not 3-4 DEs.
i find it funny as you dont think they could play 3-4

i have no doubt they could play 3-4 ends
Wilfork couldn't, he plays 3-4 NT, so no way he's athletic enough. Tommie Harris, could, but it would be like when Sapp did it, he wouldn't be that good. I don't even like Harris that much at 4-3 DE to be honest.
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Wilfork and Harris are not 3-4 DEs.
i find it funny as you dont think they could play 3-4

i have no doubt they could play 3-4 ends
Wilfork couldn't, he plays 3-4 NT, so no way he's athletic enough. Tommie Harris, could, but it would be like when Sapp did it, he wouldn't be that good. I don't even like Harris that much at 4-3 DE to be honest.
Yea I didn't understand that one either.
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If you want a Hybrid Defense just look at the Ravens D. Studs all over the place, Versitle players all on the Front 7.
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Wilfork and Harris are not 3-4 DEs.
i find it funny as you dont think they could play 3-4

i have no doubt they could play 3-4 ends
Explain to me why a 3-4 NT would play 3-4 DE and why a penetrating DT could play 3-4 DE?
as i never planed on them playing a 3-4, i would run a 4-3 with mostly 3-4 type personel ....but they could def. play 3-4

and wilfork is more athletic then u all are giving him credit for...when he was at U of M he played in a 4-3 and def showed athletic ability
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My super stud D-Line:

LE-Peppers
NT-Henderson
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A 3-4 with the all the proper personnel is almost unstoppable most of the time. A 4-3 always has some kinda flaw such as too weak against the run or too weak in the secondary, or no real pass rush. The 3-4 has a disguised pass rush and depending on how you look at it either 5 defensive linemen or 4 linebackers.
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Wilfork and Harris are not 3-4 DEs.
i find it funny as you dont think they could play 3-4

i have no doubt they could play 3-4 ends
Explain to me why a 3-4 NT would play 3-4 DE and why a penetrating DT could play 3-4 DE?
as i never planed on them playing a 3-4, i would run a 4-3 with mostly 3-4 type personel ....but they could def. play 3-4

and wilfork is more athletic then u all are giving him credit for...when he was at U of M he played in a 4-3 and def showed athletic ability
Ok... You still haven't explained how Wilfork can play DE in a 3-4.
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here is my complete D

DE-Peppers
DT-Jamal Williams
DT-Wilfork
DE-Harris

OLB-Dj Williams
MLB-Brian Urlacher
OLB-Jonathan Vilma(i know he plays MLB, but he is undersized and when he was comming out he was on some sites projected as an olb, and him and DJ are best freinds so seeing them on the field together again would be somthing to see)

CB-Champ Bailey(best DB in the league)
FS-Sean Taylor
SS-Ed Reed(his dpoy was at SS)
CB-Rasheen Mathis
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here is my complete D

DE-Peppers
DT-Jamal Williams
DT-Wilfork
DE-Harris

OLB-Dj Williams
MLB-Brian Urlacher
OLB-Jonathan Vilma(i know he plays MLB, but he is undersized and when he was comming out he was on some sites projected as an olb, and him and DJ are best freinds so seeing them on the field together again would be somthing to see)

CB-Champ Bailey(best DB in the league)
FS-Sean Taylor
SS-Ed Reed(his dpoy was at SS)
CB-Rasheen Mathis
Jamal Williams as a 4-3 DT and Harris as a 4-3 DE? :?
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here is my complete D

DE-Peppers
DT-Jamal Williams
DT-Wilfork
DE-Harris

OLB-Dj Williams
MLB-Brian Urlacher
OLB-Jonathan Vilma(i know he plays MLB, but he is undersized and when he was comming out he was on some sites projected as an olb, and him and DJ are best freinds so seeing them on the field together again would be somthing to see)

CB-Champ Bailey(best DB in the league)
FS-Sean Taylor
SS-Ed Reed(his dpoy was at SS)
CB-Rasheen Mathis
Jamal Williams as a 4-3 DT and Harris as a 4-3 DE? :?
dude i know it looks dumb...but i would def run a 4-3 2 gap. if you are familar with it it is ran very similar to a 3-4 in responsiblity...so having 2 mamoths at DT would not only be liek having 2 NTs but it would free up peppers..and since it is similar to a 3-4 you have to be able to hold ground and stop the run...hence having a very fast DT like harris who can still rush the passer but hold ground..and peppers just becuase he would def get oppurtunities as the other 3 would command double teams..actually everyone would

but a 4-3 2 gap is very similar to a 3-4 but having 4 lineman and both utilize 2 gap responsibilty
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This would be my complete hybrid

DE-Basically a 3-4 OLB
DT-A big boy who can play 3-4 DT
DT-A good run stuffer who can play 3-4 DE
DE-A versatile player who can play 4-3 DE or 3-4 DE
OLB-A good rush backer and a player who can drop back into coverage
MLB-A good run stuffer who can also play 3-4 MLB
OLB-A pass coverage specialist who can play 3-4 MLB also
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