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Old 11-28-2006, 09:12 AM    (permalink
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which is worst losing a 21 point lead with 10mins left with a mis sack & 50 sec lefts int? (Giants)

or getting beat 27 - 0 with 9 sacks or 30-0 with 4 int (Ravens / Bengals)

is it to lose everything in the last mins or lose with out scoring a point
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Tough to say. The Giants loss could give a team a hangover going into the next game but then again getting blown out is pretty demoralizing too. At least the Giants could say they played very well for 3 quarters before having the bottom completely drop out. A player like Eli can tell himself that the 4th quarter was just an abboration and hang his hat on the first three if that sort of thing can motivate him to play better next week.
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for season reason to me it makes it a bit worst that they lost 3 in row also lost to who only had 3 win , nothing against titans fans but i think it makes just bit worst adding those two factors in
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for season reason to me it makes it a bit worst that they lost 3 in row also lost to who only had 3 win , nothing against titans fans but i think it makes just bit worst adding those two factors in
True if you consider the losses beforehand. I was speaking as if we were just looking at losses like that in a vacuum. Giants have things they can rally around. There are hopefully getting some players back this week. So they will finally have more than half of their defensive starters playing.
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for season reason to me it makes it a bit worst that they lost 3 in row also lost to who only had 3 win , nothing against titans fans but i think it makes just bit worst adding those two factors in
True if you consider the losses beforehand. I was speaking as if we were just looking at losses like that in a vacuum. Giants have things they can rally around. There are hopefully getting some players back this week. So they will finally have more than half of their defensive starters playing.
is 92 coming back?

also it doesnt help manning being talk bad about by your own coach

also i think manning 1st pick could have been knock down by plex
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for season reason to me it makes it a bit worst that they lost 3 in row also lost to who only had 3 win , nothing against titans fans but i think it makes just bit worst adding those two factors in
True if you consider the losses beforehand. I was speaking as if we were just looking at losses like that in a vacuum. Giants have things they can rally around. There are hopefully getting some players back this week. So they will finally have more than half of their defensive starters playing.
is 92 coming back?

also it doesnt help manning being talk bad about by your own coach

also i think manning 1st pick could have been knock down by plex
92 isn't coming back but he is starting individual drills for the first time. Which could be a good sign. Osi is going to practice without limitations and should be back if everything goes good. Kiwi has been playing well but we have had a combination of mediocre to bad DTs playing the other DE spot for us so having Osi back will be huge. Brandon Short looks like will be back as well and maybe Sam Madison.

Coughlin is a no BS type of guy. He isn't going to sugar coat his feelings about Eli. Eli had a terrible 4th quarter and I'm sure Eli knows it. Coughlin talking bad about Eli isn't much of anything. He is normally very constructive when doing that stuff.

And absolutely that 1st pick could have been knocked down by Plax. When Eli sees that one on one press coverage he is supposed to loft it up there for Plax. Plax gave up on that ball. That is a battle that Plax is supposed to win most of the time or knock the ball down.
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for season reason to me it makes it a bit worst that they lost 3 in row also lost to who only had 3 win , nothing against titans fans but i think it makes just bit worst adding those two factors in
True if you consider the losses beforehand. I was speaking as if we were just looking at losses like that in a vacuum. Giants have things they can rally around. There are hopefully getting some players back this week. So they will finally have more than half of their defensive starters playing.
is 92 coming back?

also it doesnt help manning being talk bad about by your own coach

also i think manning 1st pick could have been knock down by plex
92 isn't coming back but he is starting individual drills for the first time. Which could be a good sign. Osi is going to practice without limitations and should be back if everything goes good. Kiwi has been playing well but we have had a combination of mediocre to bad DTs playing the other DE spot for us so having Osi back will be huge. Brandon Short looks like will be back as well and maybe Sam Madison.

Coughlin is a no BS type of guy. He isn't going to sugar coat his feelings about Eli. Eli had a terrible 4th quarter and I'm sure Eli knows it. Coughlin talking bad about Eli isn't much of anything. He is normally very constructive when doing that stuff.

And absolutely that 1st pick could have been knocked down by Plax. When Eli sees that one on one press coverage he is supposed to loft it up there for Plax. Plax gave up on that ball. That is a battle that Plax is supposed to win most of the time or knock the ball down.
but my point was that he said leave the dirt in the house and then he doesnt not listen to him self ...after tiki & shock talk about the problems he said that they should not have done that but what about what he said its Hypocritical
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Eh I don't know about hypocritical. I'm not even sure what he exactly said. I've been out of the country for the last week and missed a lot. Do you have a link for what exactly he said. He is critical of Eli a lot. He goes on a radio program in NY and the guys who run the show ask him a lot of in depth questions about particular plays and what not. And he has never been afraid to say Eli made a mistake here or Coughlin himself made a mistake there.
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Eh I don't know about hypocritical. I'm not even sure what he exactly said. I've been out of the country for the last week and missed a lot. Do you have a link for what exactly he said. He is critical of Eli a lot. He goes on a radio program in NY and the guys who run the show ask him a lot of in depth questions about particular plays and what not. And he has never been afraid to say Eli made a mistake here or Coughlin himself made a mistake there.
well i will look for the link

but when shockey said we got out coach he pretty much said that they should keep there laundry at home and it was not for the press and then a few weeks later he did it to manning
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Blowouts and domination happen more often then not. What happened to the Giants was just sad and shocking.
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Eh I don't know about hypocritical. I'm not even sure what he exactly said. I've been out of the country for the last week and missed a lot. Do you have a link for what exactly he said. He is critical of Eli a lot. He goes on a radio program in NY and the guys who run the show ask him a lot of in depth questions about particular plays and what not. And he has never been afraid to say Eli made a mistake here or Coughlin himself made a mistake there.
well i will look for the link

but when shockey said we got out coach he pretty much said that they should keep there laundry at home and it was not for the press and then a few weeks later he did it to manning
Different circumstances. Shockey looked for and searched out reporters in the locker room to say what he did. And said it quite arrogantly with a bad attitude. When Coughlin gets asked how did Eli perform in this game is he just supposed to pretend the 4th quarter didn't happen?
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In the moments after the Giants' 24-21 loss to the Titans, Coughlin took quarterback Eli Manning to task for a poor fourth-quarter performance, especially a pair of interceptions that led to Tennessee scores and a collapse by the Giants.


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What happened to the Giants is much worse IMO.

The Bengals/Ravens were both expected to win. The Titans were not.

To have such a Giant lead against a below average team when you've been having in house troubles is just devastating.
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"There's no way you can throw an interception in that situation," an angry Coughlin said. "No way. If you're rolling and you don't like what you see, throw it out of bounds. Throw it away."
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I'd have to say losing in the last quarter is worse. Sure its embarassing to get shut out but it has to feel absolutley horrible to know you dominated a game and completely blew.
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