Professional Wrestling Thread - Page 6

comahan · 12-04-2006, 06:47 PM

Paul Heyman got the blame for the terrible PPV, and he's been fired (And no, it's not a wwe storyline, as far as I know.)

Sabu was beaten up (kayfabe) backstage, and was replaced by holly in the chamber, to a huge Bull**** chant. X-Pac heat for Holly cause of this.

In one of the dumbest moves ever, CM Punk and RVD were the first 2 eliminated from the Chamber, when they were the ONLY people who got any crowd reaction.

Lashley got Cena/Batista boo's at the PPV last night during his entrance, and when he won. Also, several fans stood up and turned their back on the ring when he pinned Show.

SPOILER* Big Show is retiring (at least taking time off) after tonights ECW TV Tapings due to his back, so he won't be beating Lashley in his last match this Friday.

WMD · 12-04-2006, 07:13 PM

Everything i've heard says the Big Show is taking time off, not retiring.

comahan · 12-04-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lions WMD

Everything i've heard says the Big Show is taking time off, not retiring.

Fixed it, but I don't see him coming back.

LTgiants · 12-04-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by comahan

Paul Heyman got the blame for the terrible PPV, and he's been fired (And no, it's not a wwe storyline, as far as I know.)

Sabu was beaten up (kayfabe) backstage, and was replaced by holly in the chamber, to a huge Bull**** chant. X-Pac heat for Holly cause of this.

In one of the dumbest moves ever, CM Punk and RVD were the first 2 eliminated from the Chamber, when they were the ONLY people who got any crowd reaction.

Lashley got Cena/Batista boo's at the PPV last night during his entrance, and when he won. Also, several fans stood up and turned their back on the ring when he pinned Show.

SPOILER* Big Show is retiring (at least taking time off) after tonights ECW TV Tapings due to his back, so he won't be beating Lashley in his last match this Friday.

wait what exactly happend with sabu who is kayfabe and what exactly happend is xpac on ecw?

and is heyman really fired cause thats messed up what are they gonna do without him

Creek · 12-04-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LTgiants

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Originally Posted by comahan

Paul Heyman got the blame for the terrible PPV, and he's been fired (And no, it's not a wwe storyline, as far as I know.)

Sabu was beaten up (kayfabe) backstage, and was replaced by holly in the chamber, to a huge Bull**** chant. X-Pac heat for Holly cause of this.

In one of the dumbest moves ever, CM Punk and RVD were the first 2 eliminated from the Chamber, when they were the ONLY people who got any crowd reaction.

Lashley got Cena/Batista boo's at the PPV last night during his entrance, and when he won. Also, several fans stood up and turned their back on the ring when he pinned Show.

SPOILER* Big Show is retiring (at least taking time off) after tonights ECW TV Tapings due to his back, so he won't be beating Lashley in his last match this Friday.

wait what exactly happend with sabu who is kayfabe and what exactly happend is xpac on ecw?

and is heyman really fired cause thats messed up what are they gonna do without him

MARK!!!!!

comahan · 12-05-2006, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Creek Lewis

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Originally Posted by LTgiants

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Originally Posted by comahan

Paul Heyman got the blame for the terrible PPV, and he's been fired (And no, it's not a wwe storyline, as far as I know.)

Sabu was beaten up (kayfabe) backstage, and was replaced by holly in the chamber, to a huge Bull**** chant. X-Pac heat for Holly cause of this.

In one of the dumbest moves ever, CM Punk and RVD were the first 2 eliminated from the Chamber, when they were the ONLY people who got any crowd reaction.

Lashley got Cena/Batista boo's at the PPV last night during his entrance, and when he won. Also, several fans stood up and turned their back on the ring when he pinned Show.

SPOILER* Big Show is retiring (at least taking time off) after tonights ECW TV Tapings due to his back, so he won't be beating Lashley in his last match this Friday.

wait what exactly happend with sabu who is kayfabe and what exactly happend is xpac on ecw?

and is heyman really fired cause thats messed up what are they gonna do without him

MARK!!!!!

Come on creek, tell the guy who kayfabe is.

He was a cruserweight in the late 70's. He won a 80 man, 16 ring battle royal where he was in the last ring with the 7 Von Erich's, and he had the claw on every single one of the at once, sealing his victory.

12-05-2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LTgiants

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Originally Posted by comahan

Paul Heyman got the blame for the terrible PPV, and he's been fired (And no, it's not a wwe storyline, as far as I know.)

Sabu was beaten up (kayfabe) backstage, and was replaced by holly in the chamber, to a huge Bull**** chant. X-Pac heat for Holly cause of this.

In one of the dumbest moves ever, CM Punk and RVD were the first 2 eliminated from the Chamber, when they were the ONLY people who got any crowd reaction.

Lashley got Cena/Batista boo's at the PPV last night during his entrance, and when he won. Also, several fans stood up and turned their back on the ring when he pinned Show.

SPOILER* Big Show is retiring (at least taking time off) after tonights ECW TV Tapings due to his back, so he won't be beating Lashley in his last match this Friday.

wait what exactly happend with sabu who is kayfabe and what exactly happend is xpac on ecw?

and is heyman really fired cause thats messed up what are they gonna do without him

Don't be mean to LT, he just understand your wrestling nerd lingo.

Kayfabe means it's a storyline, and conversely not kayfabe would mean not storyline. So a storyline called for Sabu's beatdown. Where as Heyman got fired for real.

I'm not sure about X-Pac heat, but I believe it's just when you get booed because people hate you, not a character thing.

WMD · 12-05-2006, 02:34 AM

Yeah, XPac heat is where you get boo'd because the crowd is tired of the person, not the character.

Creek · 12-05-2006, 05:57 AM

I've been a wrestling fan since I was 4 years old. I've wasted my entire life on this crap, so when someone doesn't know who Kayfabe is, it's my right to laugh and laugh at them. It's all I have. I'm so lonely.

portermvp84 · 12-05-2006, 09:36 AM

Sabu or RVD should of won the match because they really gte the crowd going and they are awesome performers. It was time for Show to loose his title. Haymen was a good GM he new what he was doing, but that PPV sucked. And the WWE is a cut throat job, and I guess it was his time to go.

BigDawg819 · 12-05-2006, 12:07 PM

This quite possibly be the death knell to ECW and maybe even professional wrestling as we know it. Lets face it things are not getting better but progressively worst and there is no competition to get improvement. There is no "next" Stone Cold, there is no Monday Night Wars, there is no original thinking, all there is left is politics and bottomlines! WWE has lost touch with the fans and continues to try and tell us what to cheer for thinking back to the 80's when they could do that. The business is no longer evolving as the fans do and its going to be the end of it. The WWE champ is booed and cheered so much no one knows what he is and is now being placed in a feud with a guy who couldn't cut it as the tag team 3 Count, no I haven't forgot that disaster, and is a basic generic knock off of Samoa Joe. For god sakes his finisher is a thumb jab to the throat, just get it over with and make it the finger poke of doom! ECW is a train wreck that just had a nuclear bomb detonated on it. RVD will not get a push because he got pulled over with some weed! Everyone has known he's a stoner for years! Sabu has become the homicidal, genocidal, suicidal jobber along with Tommy Dreamer and Sandman. These guys were the backbone of ECW and part of the reason there is still a fanbase for it. Put its all about Vince's politics and making money so we are the ones who have to suffer.

T-RICH49 · 12-05-2006, 02:25 PM

Is it possible Heyman jumps to TNA as a replacement for Cornette when he leaves?

bearsfan_51 · 12-05-2006, 03:03 PM

I still think it's a work. They are far too open as to why and how he was fired for me to think it's a shoot. Not to mention the article they had on the website where actual wrestlers were coming out in favor of firing him. I don't think so.

I think this may be a work to reconfigure Heyman as one of the original ECWers fighting against the McMahonism of his product. That's obviously a story line they've been leaning towards for a while, and this makes that much more sense.

Or maybe the WWE is just full of assholes.

bearsfan_51 · 12-05-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDawg819

This quite possibly be the death knell to ECW and maybe even professional wrestling as we know it. Lets face it things are not getting better but progressively worst and there is no competition to get improvement. There is no "next" Stone Cold, there is no Monday Night Wars, there is no original thinking, all there is left is politics and bottomlines! WWE has lost touch with the fans and continues to try and tell us what to cheer for thinking back to the 80's when they could do that. The business is no longer evolving as the fans do and its going to be the end of it. The WWE champ is booed and cheered so much no one knows what he is and is now being placed in a feud with a guy who couldn't cut it as the tag team 3 Count, no I haven't forgot that disaster, and is a basic generic knock off of Samoa Joe. For god sakes his finisher is a thumb jab to the throat, just get it over with and make it the finger poke of doom! ECW is a train wreck that just had a nuclear bomb detonated on it. RVD will not get a push because he got pulled over with some weed! Everyone has known he's a stoner for years! Sabu has become the homicidal, genocidal, suicidal jobber along with Tommy Dreamer and Sandman. These guys were the backbone of ECW and part of the reason there is still a fanbase for it. Put its all about Vince's politics and making money so we are the ones who have to suffer.

Lol. You act like the character of Samoa Joe is at all original either.

Oooh...an angry Samoan. Never seen that one before.

WMD · 12-05-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Creek Lewis

I've been a wrestling fan since I was 4 years old. I've wasted my entire life on this crap, so when someone doesn't know who Kayfabe is, it's my right to laugh and laugh at them. It's all I have. I'm so lonely.

I agree with this. I had a good little chuckle at the kayfaybe thing... I remember back in the day, I was reading the NBA Jam instruction booklet and asked my dad what "Vice Versa" was, and he said he was a player for the Bulls..

So, it's always fun to poke fun at something like that..

bearsfan_51 · 12-05-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lions WMD

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Originally Posted by Creek Lewis

I've been a wrestling fan since I was 4 years old. I've wasted my entire life on this crap, so when someone doesn't know who Kayfabe is, it's my right to laugh and laugh at them. It's all I have. I'm so lonely.

I agree with this. I had a good little chuckle at the kayfaybe thing... I remember back in the day, I was reading the NBA Jam instruction booklet and asked my dad what "Vice Versa" was, and he said he was a player for the Bulls..

So, it's always fun to poke fun at something like that..

My picture of Karl Marx looks more like Santa than your picture of Santa.

WMD · 12-05-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

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Originally Posted by Lions WMD

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Originally Posted by Creek Lewis

I've been a wrestling fan since I was 4 years old. I've wasted my entire life on this crap, so when someone doesn't know who Kayfabe is, it's my right to laugh and laugh at them. It's all I have. I'm so lonely.

I agree with this. I had a good little chuckle at the kayfaybe thing... I remember back in the day, I was reading the NBA Jam instruction booklet and asked my dad what "Vice Versa" was, and he said he was a player for the Bulls..

So, it's always fun to poke fun at something like that..

My picture of Karl Marx looks more like Santa than your picture of Santa.

Tell Marx to cut his damn beard then.

Splat · 12-06-2006, 05:10 PM

The Big Show is Done.

http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/news/bigshowtimeoff

BigDawg819 · 12-06-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

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Originally Posted by BigDawg819

This quite possibly be the death knell to ECW and maybe even professional wrestling as we know it. Lets face it things are not getting better but progressively worst and there is no competition to get improvement. There is no "next" Stone Cold, there is no Monday Night Wars, there is no original thinking, all there is left is politics and bottomlines! WWE has lost touch with the fans and continues to try and tell us what to cheer for thinking back to the 80's when they could do that. The business is no longer evolving as the fans do and its going to be the end of it. The WWE champ is booed and cheered so much no one knows what he is and is now being placed in a feud with a guy who couldn't cut it as the tag team 3 Count, no I haven't forgot that disaster, and is a basic generic knock off of Samoa Joe. For god sakes his finisher is a thumb jab to the throat, just get it over with and make it the finger poke of doom! ECW is a train wreck that just had a nuclear bomb detonated on it. RVD will not get a push because he got pulled over with some weed! Everyone has known he's a stoner for years! Sabu has become the homicidal, genocidal, suicidal jobber along with Tommy Dreamer and Sandman. These guys were the backbone of ECW and part of the reason there is still a fanbase for it. Put its all about Vince's politics and making money so we are the ones who have to suffer.

Lol. You act like the character of Samoa Joe is at all original either.

Oooh...an angry Samoan. Never seen that one before.

So here we go again huh bearsfan. I'm not saying that Joe is an original character, I'm saying there is a lack of character development.

BigDawg819 · 12-06-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

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Originally Posted by BigDawg819

This quite possibly be the death knell to ECW and maybe even professional wrestling as we know it. Lets face it things are not getting better but progressively worst and there is no competition to get improvement. There is no "next" Stone Cold, there is no Monday Night Wars, there is no original thinking, all there is left is politics and bottomlines! WWE has lost touch with the fans and continues to try and tell us what to cheer for thinking back to the 80's when they could do that. The business is no longer evolving as the fans do and its going to be the end of it. The WWE champ is booed and cheered so much no one knows what he is and is now being placed in a feud with a guy who couldn't cut it as the tag team 3 Count, no I haven't forgot that disaster, and is a basic generic knock off of Samoa Joe. For god sakes his finisher is a thumb jab to the throat, just get it over with and make it the finger poke of doom! ECW is a train wreck that just had a nuclear bomb detonated on it. RVD will not get a push because he got pulled over with some weed! Everyone has known he's a stoner for years! Sabu has become the homicidal, genocidal, suicidal jobber along with Tommy Dreamer and Sandman. These guys were the backbone of ECW and part of the reason there is still a fanbase for it. Put its all about Vince's politics and making money so we are the ones who have to suffer.

Lol. You act like the character of Samoa Joe is at all original either.

Oooh...an angry Samoan. Never seen that one before.

So here we go again huh bearsfan. I'm not saying that Joe is an original character, I'm saying there is a lack of character development.

Splat · 12-07-2006, 12:07 PM

TNA is on tonight can't wait.

diabsoule · 12-07-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Splat420

TNA is on tonight can't wait.

Their product kicks the crap out of anything that WWE is doing. I watched ECW the other night and it's the same thing that RAW is doing. I had to flip the channel. When I watched Impact! the other day, the wrestling was good, I could tune out Don West, and then they had some pretty funny statement with Kevin Nash, Alex Shelley, and pee in a cup.

The only TNA needs to do is let AJ Styles do his talking in the ring like the way old ECW had Chris Benoit do. Styles was, is, and will always be horrible at promos.

Splat · 12-07-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by diabsoule

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Originally Posted by Splat420

TNA is on tonight can't wait.

Their product kicks the crap out of anything that WWE is doing. I watched ECW the other night and it's the same thing that RAW is doing. I had to flip the channel. When I watched Impact! the other day, the wrestling was good, I could tune out Don West, and then they had some pretty funny statement with Kevin Nash, Alex Shelley, and pee in a cup.

The only TNA needs to do is let AJ Styles do his talking in the ring like the way old ECW had Chris Benoit do. Styles was, is, and will always be horrible at promos.

I agree with all of that and this is coming from a huge WWE fan but TNA is just putting out a better show as of now and yes AJ should never talk but he is a stud in the ring. They have just killed ECW I new it would not be like it was back in the day but they just killed it it was starting to get better but now it is just going down hill fast.

portermvp84 · 12-07-2006, 02:55 PM

Since Lashley won the title does that offically make him an ECW man?

Splat · 12-07-2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by portermvp84

Since Lashley won the title does that offically make him an ECW man?

Ya he is on the ECW roster list he won't be back on SD the rumor was the guy that does the story line for SD and BL don't get along.