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Old 12-08-2006, 04:42 PM    (permalink
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Now that all three 2006 QB's have played, who do you think is the best now and who will be the best in the future?
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i sitll think it's too early. ask this again after a few weeks next season when cutler's had a better chance to play and you know, actually take snaps from the starting center.
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Well as of right now Vince Young looks the best but we'll see in 3-4 years who the best really is.
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Vince Young has been the best now, and will be the best in the future. He is 5-4 with the Titans. That's right he has the Titans with a winning record which includes beating the Colts.
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Vince Young has proven a lot to me, and alleivated my concerns. Right now here is my list;

1. Vince Young - He is like a hybrid mix of Steve McNair and Michael Vick. He has poise, can make all the throws, and has 500-700 yard rushing potential. Tennessee just needs to get him some weapons in the passing game.

2. Jay Cutler - He has all the physical tools and will be a fantastic QB. He'll overcome his mistakes, while the presence of Shannahan and Walker will help his development.

3. Matt Leinart - His lack of physical tools will hamper his upside. I would say Leinart will be a solid QB, but doesn't have the potential to be great.
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Vince Young is the best easily he is amazing. And Draftguru ^^^ wtf?
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Cutler has looked the worst, all be it hes only played one game. Leinart has probably looked the best passing wise. But Vince has looked good and been winning games which when it comes right down to it that is what its all about. WINS...

I think Vince is the best right now and will have the best career.
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The downside of Vince winning is they won't get CJ, although if I were the franchise I would trade up for him because you need to get this man some weapons then he really can have potential to be an elite QB.
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And pokeys, Leinart also has arguably two top 10 WRs helping him. Sure, Cutler looked pretty bad, but he did have 2 TDs. I think he got the "incredibly awful and inexcusable rookie mistake" out of his system.
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Young is probably the best, and the credit given is well deserved but i think a lot of credit should go where it is due, norm chow.
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Same vote as last time........Young
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Dont worry I know what Leinart has around him...
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again, judging cutler off a single game in which his o-line was non-existant against a good defensive team is a bit odd. if he still looks like that in two years, i'll call him elway, but until then it's a bit early to make any real judgement on him.

i guess i'd also make the same argument for young. clearly his mechanics are being tinkered with. in the two titans games i've seen (i don't even pretend to know about the titans, so feel free to crrect me) he alternated between having his arm up in the "proper" position and throwing the way he did in college. from my point of view, he's looked his best when he got his arm up. if chow and fisher can kepep him progressing, i'll be eating some crow in the near future.
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I won't be a homer and say Leinart, even though I see him progressing into a probowl QB. He has great accuracy and fits our offense perfectly. He is a natural winner, although it seems our natural losing ability cancels that out.

Young has all the physical tools, and given how raw he is in technique now it is just a credit to him how well he is doing. If there is any young QB who I see progressing to the level that Farve, Manning and Brady have played at it is this guy.

At the time I was pretty dubious about a college loser like Cutler and I question whether he will play near the level of the other 2. I think he will be an average mistake prone QB throughout most of his career.

I wonder if this will be argued as bitterly as the Manning vs Rivers vs Roeslisberger debate.
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VY has changed my opinion of him so far but I still dont think he'll reach the lofty heights of greatness, Cutler has only had 1 game but he'll be better for it, whilst Lienart just impresses the crap outta me.
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Not as odd as calling Seattle a good defensive team.

Although Cutler was pretty bad (worse than Young and Leinart in their first starts), its too early to judge him. Based on this season, Young is the best rookie qb of this class. Young has shown that his play can work in the NFL and that his intangibles are still by the far the best of this qb class.
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Its waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaay too early to say. Shoot, its too early to say in the Eli/Rivers/Ben debate, and theyre 3 years in. These guys haven't even played a season yet, how on earth can we say now?

At the current rate, you can only comment on Young and Leinart. Cutler just had one start.

Id say Young is gonna be a great qb, he's proving me wrong. Leinart will be great too, but he's gonna need weapons, and a good WCO like system to excell. His limitations will prevent him from being a chuck it downfield qb. But with his weapons in Arizona, he won't have to worry about it.
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Leinart. Young. Cutler.

In that order. That's based on nothing, but purely as how I had them coming out of college.
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Jay Cutler [the bodybuilder] >>>>>>> Young [such a leader and he just wins] > Leinart


The other Jay Cutler we haven't seen enough yet to judge. Both Leinart and Young look like good picks t and both teams should be happy with what they have. In my opinion they were drafted in the correct order.
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All three look incredibly promising imo, although Young still needs to improve as a passer. First round picks well spent it seems.
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Vince Young has impressed me. The guy is just a winner. I'm glad he's proving his critics wrong. This board was treating him pretty unfairly for most of the predraft process.
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