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Old 12-15-2006, 05:56 PM    (permalink
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It's between Jacksonville and Baltimore, no one else even comes close.
It's a 3-4 scheme so they don't mentioned very often, but I don't know if I'd want anyone besides Igor Olshansky, Jamal Williams, and Luis Castillo. They are all absolute beasts, and a big reason why our linebackers get to fly around all day.
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dolphins dont get mentioned even?
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It's between Jacksonville and Baltimore, no one else even comes close.
It's a 3-4 scheme so they don't mentioned very often, but I don't know if I'd want anyone besides Igor Olshansky, Jamal Williams, and Luis Castillo. They are all absolute beasts, and a big reason why our linebackers get to fly around all day.
I was thinking the same thing. Williams is the best interior defensive lineman in the league. But when comparing 3-4 and 4-3 fronts, it's just comparing apples and oranges because the roles are so different. You'd have to make two seperate polls....best 4-3 line and best 3-4 line.
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When the Jags are healthy they are the best by far Stroud, Henderson, Hayward, Spicer
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The Eagles have to be considered next year when Kearse is healthy, Trent Cole is the best back-up DE statistically. He was even better than half the starting DE's in the league when he was a back-up. Darren Howard is a monster, if any of u watch the Philly games. Patterson is getting better. Walker is good Bunkley will be better. Seriously, in no homerness Philly has a top 3 d-line next year
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Theyre not the best, but no seahawks option offends me
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Why you your self a Hawks fan said they are not the best why put them on the poll?
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I said the Falcons before the season, but obviously injuries have derailed that. I was reluctant to say Baltimore partlly because we didn't know how Pryce and Ngata would do, but I guess they're doing well enough, so I'd probly say them.
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It shouldn't
We led the league in sacks last year with the same D-line we have this year (minus Russell Davis)
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We led the league in sacks last year with the same D-line we have this year (minus Russell Davis)
Same players but they haven't done even close to as well.
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Old 12-15-2006, 07:24 PM    (permalink
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I think at this point you have to vote for the Ravens. The Bears have too many problems at this point. And to be honest, Tommie Harris sort of disappeared after around Week 5 or 6 this season.

The Ravens are built very well and have youth and expierence at the same time.

Whoever said that the Dolphins need to be at least mentioned, I totally agree with you.
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Chargers LEAD NFL in sacks...DLINE is a reason for that..
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I'll take a healthy Jacksonville Jaguars, since it's tough to consider Baltimore a 4-3 defense since they give so many different looks.

As far as the Chargers go, their OLB's account for 23 of their sacks. While they do have a great defensive line, none of them are sack artists. Their front three only account for 9.5 of that league leading sack total.

The Jaguars have the best two defensive tackles in the game, not to mention they make an average Nick Greisen, a Daryl Smith who hasn't played MIKE and a rookie Clint Ingram into a top front seven defense.
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When the Jags are healthy they are the best by far Stroud, Henderson, Hayward, Spicer
Now it'd be

RE - McCray (Will top double-digit sacks this year. Would be in Pro Bowl discussion if he had started from Week 2)
DT - Stroud
DT - Henderson
LE - Hayward

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Rob Meier (Classic DT/DE rotation player)
Paul Spicer (Has started for the team for a few years, and will help depth by subbing in during obvious run plays)
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I'll take a healthy Jacksonville Jaguars, since it's tough to consider Baltimore a 4-3 defense since they give so many different looks.

As far as the Chargers go, their OLB's account for 23 of their sacks. While they do have a great defensive line, none of them are sack artists. Their front three only account for 9.5 of that league leading sack total.

The Jaguars have the best two defensive tackles in the game, not to mention they make an average Nick Greisen, a Daryl Smith who hasn't played MIKE and a rookie Clint Ingram into a top front seven defense.
MIKE is Daryl Smith's natural position.

Still, your points are good.
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I feel as bigblue does. Balt #1, Jax #2.

Bobby McCray has actually turned into a very good rush end now that he's starting (not like he wasn't when he was a 3rd down guy). If Hayward can get back and healthy, the line could be pretty dang good with McCray, Stroud, Big John, and Hayward, along with quality guys in Paul Spicer and Rob Meier to get time.
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the ravens DLine is unbelievably versatile and their best Dlinmen may be one of the most underrated and underapreciated player in the leauge --> kelly gregg... he is so strong and so smart. He is always clogging up the middle and unlike other DT's who dont get tackles, he can suck up blocks and get tackles.... he is trully an elite DT

others on the DLine help compliment everyone else....
-Rookie Haloti Ngata is still learning but he is sucking up blocks extremely well... his tackle #'s are also getting better
-Terrell Suggs- a true pass rusher with great acceleration... he is a force at forcing fumbles
-Trevor Pryce- a great surprise as many saw him as past his prime... he has reached double digit sacks because of his combination of size, strength, and surprising acceleration
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Doesn't Baltimore run a 3-4 as well? At least part time.
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I'm surprised Oakland hasn't been mentioned.
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Anybody who thinks it's the Bears line them up against a power running team with a decent o line and they get plowed over, and I'm not basing this off of what I believe it's the truth. If we're basing a lartge part of this off of sacks-of their 32 sacks from the defensive line, 10 have came from Mark Anderson, a back up defensive end who's a good player but atleast half of those have came in garbage time, I believe two against Arizona, one of which the Right Tackle didn't even look his way to block him, went untouched. In my opinion quite possibly the most easy sacks by any player I've ever seen and to me that doesn't do anything for the caliber of a team's defensive line. And I vote Baltimore.
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The Ravens have 22 ints this year and are currently #1 in total defense.
They win.
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well i say baltimore but its hard to tell because they use so many fronts
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