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Old 12-17-2006, 09:11 PM    (permalink
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^thats good. future comes down to Portis and Gore

Portis btw is the youngest to reach 5000 yards i believe
Yeah, but with any team other than Denver and if he wasn't barely 20 when he started his NFL career that would be different. Denver makes Olandis Gary look good for crying out loud.

I agree that Portis is great and I had him as the number one rusher this season which obviously isn't happening due to injury. I had Gore finishing around 9th in rushing after the Barlow trade.

I don't think McGahee deserves so much credit because I have watched every single one of his NFL games so far as a Bills fan. He is a great back, but he won't do much unless he has good blocking and runs on the outside and gets 25 carries a game. If only he hadn't killed that knee, then again if it weren't for that he wouldn't have fallen to the Bills, so it worked out for the Bills I guess...

James to me hasn't been very good since his first major injury with the Colts, since then he has just been above average and not a top teir back, he was a a hall of fame pace but then he got hurt and was more of a multi pro bowler who might get a shot at the hall of fame in a very weak crop.

I think that I will withdraw my previous choice of Gore after thinking about it more and I think that Portis is the best of the bunch once again and he is my ultra ultra early pick for best back next year in terms of per game production at least because of his injury problems.

They are all great... pretty much I have Gore and Portis and then right behind them McGahee and James. I would like to see what Gore would be like without the injuries, that would just be scary :shock:
or McGahee without the blown knee.

but its too late to say that. all 4 are very talented but at this point its Gore verse Portis
Pretty much.

I can't wait until the Auburn version of this starts with Caddy, Ronnie, Rudi and Kenny. I am going to be all over that, hopefully that won't be for another 2-3 years though, but I know someone will jump the gun.
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If McGahee didn't destroy his knee he would be one of the best RBs in the league without a doubt. The way he could cut and go was ridiculous.
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If McGahee didn't destroy his knee he would be one of the best RBs in the league without a doubt. The way he could cut and go was ridiculous.

What if Gore didn't tear up both knees?
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also McGahee ran a 4.25 @ Miami Campus thing..41 inch verticle..

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Aside from this debate, I think it should be said you know your school is good when the NFL leading rusher might be just the fourth best runningback in the NFL currently from your university. Okay that made sense in my head, but not in English
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I think some of us are over-rating talent a bit. It doesnt matter if you have all the talent in the world if you dont know how to use it. Charles Rogers has more talent than David Kircus, but which one is on an NFL roster right now?
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I think some of us are over-rating talent a bit. It doesnt matter if you have all the talent in the world if you dont know how to use it. Charles Rogers has more talent than David Kircus, but which one is on an NFL roster right now?
thats apples compared to oranges..all these guys are in the discussion because they use the talent.. and thats why they are good RBs
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I think some of us are over-rating talent a bit. It doesnt matter if you have all the talent in the world if you dont know how to use it. Charles Rogers has more talent than David Kircus, but which one is on an NFL roster right now?
thats apples compared to oranges..all these guys are in the discussion because they use the talent.. and thats why they are good RBs
Yeah but sayin mcgahee has more talent than gore doesnt mean much in the discussion. Mcgahee has been in the league longer and i dont think ive seen a truly breakout year. I also personally find him over-rated. I watch many bills games and i dont see anything too special. He has his best games against the jets, and the rest hes average. Way too inconsistent for my liking.
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I think some of us are over-rating talent a bit. It doesnt matter if you have all the talent in the world if you dont know how to use it. Charles Rogers has more talent than David Kircus, but which one is on an NFL roster right now?
thats apples compared to oranges..all these guys are in the discussion because they use the talent.. and thats why they are good RBs
Yeah but sayin mcgahee has more talent than gore doesnt mean much in the discussion. Mcgahee has been in the league longer and i dont think ive seen a truly breakout year. I also personally find him over-rated. I watch many bills games and i dont see anything too special. He has his best games against the jets, and the rest hes average. Way too inconsistent for my liking.
im saying he had all the talent with speed and agility before the knee injury
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2003 Marshall Faulk's offense.

2005 Larry Johnson's offense.

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If McGahee didn't destroy his knee he would be one of the best RBs in the league without a doubt. The way he could cut and go was ridiculous.

What if Gore didn't tear up both knees?
That's a good point but even before Gore messed his knee up he wasn't as impressive at McGahee was at Miami. If you saw him play every game that year you would understand, he was so ridiculously quick. He hit the hole so fast. He doesn't have the burst he once had.
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It comes down to Gore vs Portis.

Gore hits the hole harder than any running back on that list, but Portis probably has better top speed since Gore can be caught from behind. However, I'll take Gore's attitude, determination, and heart over all of them.
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Portis is now running in Al Saunders offense.

2003 Marshall Faulk's offense.

2005 Larry Johnson's offense.

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Al Saunders quote: 'Gobs of points'

Frank Gore is running in Norv Turner's RB happy offense, with Larry Allen leading the way.
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Portis is now running in Al Saunders offense.

2003 Marshall Faulk's offense.

2005 Larry Johnson's offense.

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Al Saunders quote: 'Gobs of points'

Frank Gore is running in Norv Turner's RB happy offense, with Larry Allen leading the way.
I wish the Dolphins still had Norv. That is what made Ricky do dominant. That damn counter. I was reading something like week 6 where on counter plays he averages like 3 more ypc and has like 75% of his yards.
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If it's best RB when playing at the U it's Willis McGahee.

In the NFL, I give it to Portis or Edge. Gore is having an amazing season, but all the RBs on that list have had at least one great season... Portis has been impressive this whole time and has still a lot of potential and time to get better. Edge has been productive throughout his career, but his injuries and poor play at Arizona (tho not really all his fault) is what makes him second to Portis imo.
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IMO Gore is the best runner of the group, he runs strong and with authority...he's almost impossible to bring down 1-on-1 without sound technique..which is why he breaks a ton of tackles. He does not have breakaway speed, but he does have excellent quickness which allows him to accelerate into the 2nd level. He plays with determination.

Portis has the most pure talent of the bunch, but he can't stay healthy for some reason...nagging injuries bothered him last year as well if I recall?

Haven't seen much of McGahee but he dances at the line too much instead of hitting the hole hard...most of his big runs come from draw plays, outside runs.

Edge...he's fallen off in AZ I still like him though.
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1. Frank Gore
2. Clinton Portis
3. Willis McGahee
4. Edge James

Gore has 1491 yards with 2 games to go. A 5.5 yards per carry average with 6 touchdowns. Portis is good but this year he has been injured and he's never averaged over 4.3 on a season with a Washington (5.5 both years with Denver). McGahee is averaging 3.9 yards per touch, I don't like him too much but he's better than Edge. Edge was only good because of Peyton
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1. Frank Gore
2. Clinton Portis
3. Willis McGahee
4. Edge James

Gore has 1491 yards with 2 games to go. A 5.5 yards per carry average with 6 touchdowns. Portis is good but this year he has been injured and he's never averaged over 4.3 on a season with a Washington (5.5 both years with Denver). McGahee is averaging 3.9 yards per touch, I don't like him too much but he's better than Edge. Edge was only good because of Peyton
I honestly don't believe that.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Letvig0VFaY
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1. Frank Gore
2. Clinton Portis
3. Willis McGahee
4. Edge James

Gore has 1491 yards with 2 games to go. A 5.5 yards per carry average with 6 touchdowns. Portis is good but this year he has been injured and he's never averaged over 4.3 on a season with a Washington (5.5 both years with Denver). McGahee is averaging 3.9 yards per touch, I don't like him too much but he's better than Edge. Edge was only good because of Peyton
I honestly don't believe that.
people only think edge was only good because of peyton is because they are looking a Edge's stats not seeing how bad his oline is
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Edgerrin James is still a leader and a dominant runner, he just doesn't have ANY blocking in the desert.
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Portis all the way. He has the best stats. Here's how I rank 'em.

1. Clinton Portis
2. Edgerrin James
3. Willis McGahee
4. Frank Gore

Frank Gore is the most overrated he's so slow and small its a wonder how he manages to even start. Maybe it is because the Niners are one of the worst teams this season
You should be murdered, the two at the botom of your list are the two whose jersey's I have...

I would take Gore over all of them, even Willis as a Bills fan. He is too inconsistent. If I was a pass crazy team, James for sure. Zone blocking, Portis. McGahee fits in all schemes and can be decent, but Gore hits the hole harder and faster than all of them in my opinion, that is why I would want him.

1. Gore
2a. Portis
2b. James
2c. McGahee
That is a little much.
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