Your best recruit - Page 4

CC · 02-02-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kwilk103

i never said mundy was great; just solid and didnt give up the big play

our dline and lber got a ton of pressure on the qbs, thus forcing the qbs into bad throws

im just telling you this was the only year our defense didnt suck and it was cuz our dline was good

a former all-american db said gibson was clueless and had no technique; the only reason he is coaching d-1 is cuz him and rod go back; the guy couldnt even play in the wviac

hes a coffee runner

Well I guess it's a shame we all can't get the kind of coaches that couldn't cut it at Virginia Military and as OC for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.

kwilk103 · 02-02-2008, 03:22 PM

no one wins at vmi---no winning seasons since the early 80s

and hes just gonna be a ceo and actually let his oc and dc call the plays and not override them like rod does

dave johnson---oline coach; former te coach at uga; coached probowlers in randy mcmichael, ben watson and 2nd round pick leonar pope; definately upgrade over greg frey

david lockwood---db coach; former minnesota dc; coached here in the late 90s when our defense was good; former uk db coach; upgrade over starbucks gibson

jeff mullen---oc/qb coach; def upgrade over rod smith as qb coach; coached ben mauk and riley skinner; smith was going to get fired at usf; as oc hes unproven but jim grobe said hes a good hire; wash at oc due to the fact that magee was the oc in name only

chris beatty---rb coach; one of the bright young minds in cfb; will get some of the best prospects out of the va tidewater area; also was a oc at d-1aa hampton

doc holliday---te/fb coach; top 5 recruiter in the country

steve dunlap---safeties coach; former marshall, syracuse, and wvu dc; defense had the #1 ranking in '96; always gave us trouble when we played against him

coach k---great dline coach; strength of our defense this year

jeff casteel---defense had the #4 overall ranking this year; coordinator of the year by rivals; good recruiter; was the reason we got tevita finau who is the best dlineman we've ever recruited (wanted by ou, fla, usc)

all these guys had legitamate d-1 expieriance before goin to big programs; all the former coaches went from the wviac to wvu

and rod doesnt know how to change the system to a non-running qb; we had one in scott mcbrien, rod basically forced him to transfer cuz he cant run and he kicked our butts for 2 yrs; see 2005 pre pat white; that was painful to watch a dropback passer run the option

mqtirishfan · 02-02-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kwilk103

and hes just gonna be a ceo and actually let his oc and dc call the plays and not override them like rod does

Whatever, RR had a great deal of success at WVU doing what he did. And of course Stewart will let his OC and DC do their jobs with no interference. He's too incompetent to do otherwise.

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Originally Posted by kwilk103

doc holliday---te/fb coach; top 5 recruiter in the country

Top 5 recruiter in the country at a good school. He's a great recruiter, but Florida sells itself.

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Originally Posted by kwilk103

and rod doesnt know how to change the system to a non-running qb; we had one in scott mcbrien, rod basically forced him to transfer cuz he cant run and he kicked our butts for 2 yrs; see 2005 pre pat white; that was painful to watch a dropback passer run the option

Yes, because, as has been said numerous times, it's not like a QB under RR has never put up insane passing numbers before.

kwilk103 · 02-02-2008, 08:50 PM

he still ran the spread option when we had no running qb

he came in, took over a 7-5 team, insisted on being a spread option team and we preceded to go 3-8

hes 21-22 against ranked teams; 28-22 w/o pat white

and doc was a great recruiter at nc state

mqtirishfan · 02-02-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kwilk103

and doc was a great recruiter at nc state

Top 5 in the country, though?

And seriously, RR can coach circles around Stewart. It's not even comparable.

keylime_5 · 02-02-2008, 11:04 PM

don't undersell holliday, he's a great recruiter.

mqtirishfan · 02-02-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by keylime_5

don't undersell holliday, he's a great recruiter.

I've already agreed upon that thought. I'm just saying he won't be anywhere near as successful at WVU. Nobody can be as successful leaving UF unless it's for OSU or USC.

kwilk103 · 02-03-2008, 12:07 AM

we also have chris beatty to recruit va tidewater---he is liked by the coaches in that area

holliday was great at wvu (he was a coach here under nehlen)

brought in guys such as jericho cotchery, mario williams, etc to nc st

dave johnson will be great in ga

keylime_5 · 02-03-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mqtirishfan

I've already agreed upon that thought. I'm just saying he won't be anywhere near as successful at WVU. Nobody can be as successful leaving UF unless it's for OSU or USC.

He won't put together classes like Florida got, but that doesn't mean he's not a great recruiter. Zook was a great recruiter at Florida and he's doing the same stuff at Illinois. You never know.

kwilk103 · 02-03-2008, 12:41 PM

hes also well respected by hs coaches in fla

and theres sooo much talent there; the 2* and 3* are just as good as some 4* in other states

Rich Jr · 02-03-2008, 02:00 PM

Patrick Johnson is probably the biggest recruit LSU has had in the last 6-7 years.

DChess · 02-03-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CC

Whatever you guys want to tell yourselves. This whole situation has just reminded you that West Virginia is and always will be a stepping stone school, descending back into mediocrity now that their former golden boy Rodriguez moved onto bigger and better things.

pretty sure we'll have a better team for at least the next two years, so have fun with 4 wins next year. also, you took john beline from us, we got bob huggins, who had bill walker, and michael beasley come to a terible basketball school to come play for him. but i digress, this isnt basketball forum.

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Originally Posted by SNIPER26

We have three main rivals bud. Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Michigan State. 2/3 ain't bad. You're not a rival though. We don't ever play you.

as of right now, notre dame isnt much of a rival, you beat a team who one three times. your main rival, the only really good team, has had and will probably have your number for the next couple years. i never said this was a rivalry nor did i declare it was, i think you michigan fans have talked about how it isnt a rivalry more than we [wvu fans] have talked about it being one.

mqtirishfan · 02-03-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DChess

as of right now, notre dame isnt much of a rival, you beat a team who one once. your main rival, the only really good team, has had and will probably have your number for the next couple years. i never said this was a rivalry nor did i declare it was, i think you michigan fans have talked about how it isnt a rivalry more than we [wvu fans] have talked about it being one.

Notre Dame won three times, thank you very much.

I don't get your point, though. Just because one team isn't good for a year or two, it doesn't mean the rivarly goes away. To suggest that is insane.

DChess · 02-03-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mqtirishfan

Notre Dame won three times, thank you very much.

I don't get your point, though. Just because one team isn't good for a year or two, it doesn't mean the rivarly goes away. To suggest that is insane.

oh yeah my bad. i honestly just stopped paying attention to notre dame last year. i agree that rivalary doesnt go away but it kind of loses some of the luster for that year when the one team is just that bad. i was more refering to the point that michigan cant beat their main rival, and the only real competition that any of their 3 rivals produced