DPOTY Debate; Bailey or Taylor?

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Originally Posted by NYmoney

exactly. look what 5th round pick mark anderson is doing in chicago, and meanwhile, there is no rookie cb making a comparable impact.

CB Jonathan Joseph of the Bengals has had a just as good if not better year than Mr. Unblocked Mark Anderson.

[njx9]

^^^ fantastic post (the one defending kampman). i wouldn't have thought kampman should've even been mentioned, and while i think you've slotted him about right (4th or 5th), based on what you've got, he certainly deserves mention.

[Windy]

Yea i had Kampman on my big fantasy team. He always put it up

[snobdmat]

Merriman

taylor with the season hes having

[Namy]

I haven't really seen much of JT excpet on SC, so I can't really make a definitive decision on my part. However, from watching Champ this whole year, he is worthy of a DPOY. Is he worthier over JT? I dont' really know. But under normal circumstances is he worthy? Hell yes. Not sure if he will win it tho... the 4 game losing slide the Broncos took may really hurt his chances. We'll see tho.

[DChess]

i truely think bailey should get it, he's the best defensive player in the league, and is have the best season (i know many will argue with that one)

[sodar21]

Jason Taylor should win it in my opinion. 9 forced fumbles. 9!?!!

[draftguru151]

I'm bored so some head to head stats.

Tackles:
Champ- 81, Taylor-56
Sacks:
Taylor-13.5, Champ-0
Interceptions:
Champ- 9, Taylor-2
FF:
Taylor-9, Champ-0
Total turnovers:
Taylor-11, Champ-9
Pass defensed:
Champ-11, Taylor- 8
Touchdowns:
Taylor-2, Champ-0

Both are having great seasons, but looking at that is is hard to argue against Taylor. Has 2 more forced turnovers, 2 more touchdowns, almost as many PD when Taylor is a DE/OLB, then you had in 13.5 sacks for Taylor. I know it's now all about stats, but that's hard to argue against.

[SuperMcGee]

Originally Posted by draftguru151

I'm bored so some head to head stats.

Tackles:
Champ- 81, Taylor-56
Sacks:
Taylor-13.5, Champ-0
Interceptions:
Champ- 9, Taylor-2
FF:
Taylor-9, Champ-0
Total turnovers:
Taylor-11, Champ-9
Pass defensed:
Champ-11, Taylor- 8
Touchdowns:
Taylor-2, Champ-0

Both are having great seasons, but looking at that is is hard to argue against Taylor. Has 2 more forced turnovers, 2 more touchdowns, almost as many PD when Taylor is a DE/OLB, then you had in 13.5 sacks for Taylor. I know it's now all about stats, but that's hard to argue against.

I have their PD numbers as 20 for Champ and 11 for Taylor
And a forced fumble doesn't necessitate a turnover, but yeah, Taylor did his part by forcing it anyway

[draftguru151]

NFL.com has the official stats.

[SuperMcGee]

Originally Posted by draftguru151

NFL.com has the official stats.

I'm still getting 20 for Champ

[draftguru151]

Originally Posted by SuperMcgee

I'm still getting 20 for Champ

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/133217

2006 Denver Broncos 15 81 69.0 12 0 9 92 10.2 32 0 11

[SuperMcGee]

http://www.nfl.com/stats/playersort/...=4&_3:col_2=11

Player Team G Ints Yds LG TDs FF Rec TDs Pdef Scks SFTY Cmb Tck Solo Ast
Champ Bailey DEN 15 9 92 32 0 0 1 0 20 0 0 81 69.0 64 12


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[draftguru151]

They probably add interceptions to it.

[SuperMcGee]

Yeah, they definitely are
Just weird to see it listed two different ways on the same site