What's wrong with Philip Rivers? - Page 4

rocco31fb · 01-02-2007, 07:44 PM

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San Deigo had home field wrapped up with 2 games to go. With no need to win, the whole team relaxed and it showed in more than just Rivers. I'm sorry, but I think this thread was created because Chris is still mad the Broncos missed the playoffs.

I actually started this thread when it looked like we were in.. might have actually even been before th Bengals game ended, not sure. I'm not even really that pissed about missing the playoffs, it's disappointing, but the Broncos have nobody to blame but themselves. They should be a 12-4 team right now because they shoulda beaten STL, SF and SD the first time. But they aren't.

The Broncos should be a 10-6 team if they stayed with Plummer. They gave up on the season when they chose to start Cutler. You can't say they shoulda beat a team when they had a chance and didn't.

Well I'm not saying we got robbed of those games, I'm saying we pissed them away by playing badly. We were in position to win those games. And Plummer was awful, honestly, he was just terrible, Cutler was EASILY ten times better. Consider Cutler almost had a 2:1 TD:INT ratio and had 2 TDs in each of his first four starts(tying a rookie record) Plummer through 2 more INTs than TDs and only averaged 1 TD per game. The offense was stagnant when Plummer was in there, Cutler brought life to the offense.

While I agree with you on his stats, more than a few of those TDs that Cutler threw were jump balls that he was lucky to complete. Also, the Brandon Marshall TD was bad tackling by the Seattle Defense. I don't want to go over every TD Cutler and Plummer threw, but I don't agree that Cutler was 10 times better. He made some of the dumbest throws that a rookie would make that ruined a lot of those games. While the offense wasn't as exciting when Plummer was in, he gave the Broncos the best chance to win. I know it's tough to admit, but the Master made the wrong call when he benched Plummer.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 01-02-2007, 07:53 PM

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San Deigo had home field wrapped up with 2 games to go. With no need to win, the whole team relaxed and it showed in more than just Rivers. I'm sorry, but I think this thread was created because Chris is still mad the Broncos missed the playoffs.

I actually started this thread when it looked like we were in.. might have actually even been before th Bengals game ended, not sure. I'm not even really that pissed about missing the playoffs, it's disappointing, but the Broncos have nobody to blame but themselves. They should be a 12-4 team right now because they shoulda beaten STL, SF and SD the first time. But they aren't.

The Broncos should be a 10-6 team if they stayed with Plummer. They gave up on the season when they chose to start Cutler. You can't say they shoulda beat a team when they had a chance and didn't.

Well I'm not saying we got robbed of those games, I'm saying we pissed them away by playing badly. We were in position to win those games. And Plummer was awful, honestly, he was just terrible, Cutler was EASILY ten times better. Consider Cutler almost had a 2:1 TD:INT ratio and had 2 TDs in each of his first four starts(tying a rookie record) Plummer through 2 more INTs than TDs and only averaged 1 TD per game. The offense was stagnant when Plummer was in there, Cutler brought life to the offense.

While I agree with you on his stats, more than a few of those TDs that Cutler threw were jump balls that he was lucky to complete. Also, the Brandon Marshall TD was bad tackling by the Seattle Defense. I don't want to go over every TD Cutler and Plummer threw, but I don't agree that Cutler was 10 times better. He made some of the dumbest throws that a rookie would make that ruined a lot of those games. While the offense wasn't as exciting when Plummer was in, he gave the Broncos the best chance to win. I know it's tough to admit, but the Master made the wrong call when he benched Plummer.

I saw most of Cutler's games, and the only absolutely horrendous decision was the INT against Seattle that got returned for a TD. The pick-six against the 9ers wasn't good either. And he didn't ruin alot of those games. He was under alot of pressure, and the defense simply underperformed the last several weeks.

Plummer sucks. He was terrible, other Broncos fans will agree with me. The guy was terrible the whole year, and I actually wanted him to start until I realised it too. Plummer in no way gave the Broncos a better chance to win. The offense couldnt even move the ball when he was in, they were TERRIBLE. Cutler comes in, and their offense becomes actually pretty good. PPG with Plummer, 17. PPG with Cutler: 24.8. A full touchdown of improvement. Also to note, while Cutler has been in, Denver has not scored under 20 points, which is 3 points over Plummer's average.

Plus, Plummer is one of the most mistake prone QBs in the league, he definitely did more to lose games than Cutler did.

But we should probably move on from this, as it IS a Philip Rivers thread.

rocco31fb · 01-02-2007, 08:04 PM

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San Deigo had home field wrapped up with 2 games to go. With no need to win, the whole team relaxed and it showed in more than just Rivers. I'm sorry, but I think this thread was created because Chris is still mad the Broncos missed the playoffs.

I actually started this thread when it looked like we were in.. might have actually even been before th Bengals game ended, not sure. I'm not even really that pissed about missing the playoffs, it's disappointing, but the Broncos have nobody to blame but themselves. They should be a 12-4 team right now because they shoulda beaten STL, SF and SD the first time. But they aren't.

The Broncos should be a 10-6 team if they stayed with Plummer. They gave up on the season when they chose to start Cutler. You can't say they shoulda beat a team when they had a chance and didn't.

Well I'm not saying we got robbed of those games, I'm saying we pissed them away by playing badly. We were in position to win those games. And Plummer was awful, honestly, he was just terrible, Cutler was EASILY ten times better. Consider Cutler almost had a 2:1 TD:INT ratio and had 2 TDs in each of his first four starts(tying a rookie record) Plummer through 2 more INTs than TDs and only averaged 1 TD per game. The offense was stagnant when Plummer was in there, Cutler brought life to the offense.

While I agree with you on his stats, more than a few of those TDs that Cutler threw were jump balls that he was lucky to complete. Also, the Brandon Marshall TD was bad tackling by the Seattle Defense. I don't want to go over every TD Cutler and Plummer threw, but I don't agree that Cutler was 10 times better. He made some of the dumbest throws that a rookie would make that ruined a lot of those games. While the offense wasn't as exciting when Plummer was in, he gave the Broncos the best chance to win. I know it's tough to admit, but the Master made the wrong call when he benched Plummer.

I saw most of Cutler's games, and the only absolutely horrendous decision was the INT against Seattle that got returned for a TD. The pick-six against the 9ers wasn't good either. And he didn't ruin alot of those games. He was under alot of pressure, and the defense simply underperformed the last several weeks.

Plummer sucks. He was terrible, other Broncos fans will agree with me. The guy was terrible the whole year, and I actually wanted him to start until I realised it too. Plummer in no way gave the Broncos a better chance to win. The offense couldnt even move the ball when he was in, they were TERRIBLE. Cutler comes in, and their offense becomes actually pretty good. PPG with Plummer, 17. PPG with Cutler: 24.8. A full touchdown of improvement. Also to note, while Cutler has been in, Denver has not scored under 20 points, which is 3 points over Plummer's average.

Plus, Plummer is one of the most mistake prone QBs in the league, he definitely did more to lose games than Cutler did.

But we should probably move on from this, as it IS a Philip Rivers thread.

Phillip Rivers>Jay Cutler

Rivers will surprise everyone in the playoffs. That's my prediction.

njx9 · 01-02-2007, 08:18 PM

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but the Master made the wrong call when he benched Plummer.

please, join me in the broncos thread and explain what games you were watching when you thought you were seeing denver play.

Draft King · 01-02-2007, 09:50 PM

Somebody explain to me how Rivers is even a quarterback in this league. Look at the size of this guy, he should be a safety for that terrible defense of the Chargers. He constantly throws too hard, and has no accuracy what-so-ever. McCardell can only make so many plays, it's not his fault Rivers is whipping his balls all over the place. Billy Volek on the other hand, could be a starter for just about and team in this league and it's a crime he's on the bench behind Phillip Rivers. Turn Rivers to a safety where he belongs, and let Volek bomb out some TD's to McCardell and Jackson.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 01-02-2007, 10:17 PM

Philip Rivers' hobbies are golf, fishing, and reading the newspaper. I bet he enjoys talking about politics to his wife, too. God I hate him.

Draft King · 01-02-2007, 11:00 PM

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Philip Rivers' hobbies are golf, fishing, and reading the newspaper. I bet he enjoys talking about politics to his wife, too. God I hate him.

As I said earlier, Volek > Rivers. River's nuthuggers have nothing yet to say against the truth.

scar988 · 01-02-2007, 11:02 PM

wow. after reading this topic I find it funny how guys liek Shiver and Draft King use the same arguements against Rivers that are used against Vick, yet Rivers is a golden boy...

Draft King · 01-02-2007, 11:12 PM

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wow. after reading this topic I find it funny how guys liek Shiver and Draft King use the same arguements against Vick that are used against Rivers, yet Rivers is a golden boy...

Just do a little switcharoo between those names.

Windy · 01-02-2007, 11:15 PM

Rivers is a great leader. Even as a raider fan i like him. coo

Draft King · 01-02-2007, 11:16 PM

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Rivers is a great leader. Even as a raider fan i like him. coo

Yeah, he's great at leading his recievers right into the opposing bench on throws. Face it, the man is overrated and garbage.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 01-02-2007, 11:27 PM

The only thing Rivers does well is pick out the best American Eagle shirts.

Shiver · 01-02-2007, 11:40 PM

Tony Romo is only an athlete. Look at his past five games; at passer rating at 77, more interceptions than touchdowns, seven fumbles! It's pretty obvious he fumbles so much because he just runs around all the time. Eight interceptions in five games, he isn't smart enough for a position. As Michael Irvin says he has 'a little slave stud in him,' very true, because of that he shouldn't play the position. At 6'2" 225-lbs, and his black bloodlines caused athleticism, he'd be a great Safety. He could definitely cover better than Roy Williams for sure. The Cowboys need to get a pocket passer who doesn't run around and cause turnovers, losing to bad teams like Detroit!

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 01-02-2007, 11:43 PM

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Tony Romo is only an athlete. Look at his past five games; at passer rating at 77, more interceptions than touchdowns, seven fumbles! It's pretty obvious he fumbles so much because he just runs around all the time. Eight interceptions in five games, he isn't smart enough for a position. As Michael Irvin says he has 'a little slave stud in him,' very true, because of that he shouldn't play the position. At 6'2" 225-lbs, and his black bloodlines caused athleticism, he'd be a great Safety. He could definitely cover better than Roy Williams for sure. The Cowboys need to get a pocket passer who doesn't run around and cause turnovers, losing to bad teams like Detroit!

BRING BACK BLEDSOE!!!! HE WON A SB IN 2001!!!

Windy · 01-02-2007, 11:47 PM

I guess i'll join in on this thread of hatred for qb's. just because

let's see

i hate eli manning just because i dont like him

let's see

i hate matt hasselbeck just because i dont like him

let's see hmm

who else dont i like hmmm

how about this trend?

jay cutler because he plays in the afc west so he sucks

trent green because he plays in the afc west so he sucks

phillip rivers because he plays in the afc west so he sucks

oh but andrew walter is the best out of all them because he plays for the team i like.

Tubby · 01-02-2007, 11:51 PM

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i hate matt hasselbeck just because i dont like him

tubby... smash...

(i know wcbgu's post is sarcastic)

Windy · 01-02-2007, 11:53 PM

I hate marcus tubbs because i say so

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 01-02-2007, 11:55 PM

the only thing Marcus Tubbs is good at is picking out the best fast food restaurants.

Tubby · 01-02-2007, 11:56 PM

Windy: I was just on isketch impersonating you. It was a blast.

Chris: You want your rubber fist back?

Shiver · 01-02-2007, 11:57 PM

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Tony Romo is only an athlete. Look at his past five games; at passer rating at 77, more interceptions than touchdowns, seven fumbles! It's pretty obvious he fumbles so much because he just runs around all the time. Eight interceptions in five games, he isn't smart enough for a position. As Michael Irvin says he has 'a little slave stud in him,' very true, because of that he shouldn't play the position. At 6'2" 225-lbs, and his black bloodlines caused athleticism, he'd be a great Safety. He could definitely cover better than Roy Williams for sure. The Cowboys need to get a pocket passer who doesn't run around and cause turnovers, losing to bad teams like Detroit!

BRING BACK BLEDSOE!!!! HE WON A SB IN 2001!!!

Bledsoe is a QUARTERBACK, a person who will beat you in the pocket. Romo is just an athlete, who runs around with his black-like athleticism.

TIP · 01-03-2007, 01:19 AM

Rivers is gonna be like Big Ben in the playoffs his rookie season. This is Phillips first year as a full starter, I'm wondering if its worn him down at all

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 01-03-2007, 12:05 PM

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Tony Romo is only an athlete. Look at his past five games; at passer rating at 77, more interceptions than touchdowns, seven fumbles! It's pretty obvious he fumbles so much because he just runs around all the time. Eight interceptions in five games, he isn't smart enough for a position. As Michael Irvin says he has 'a little slave stud in him,' very true, because of that he shouldn't play the position. At 6'2" 225-lbs, and his black bloodlines caused athleticism, he'd be a great Safety. He could definitely cover better than Roy Williams for sure. The Cowboys need to get a pocket passer who doesn't run around and cause turnovers, losing to bad teams like Detroit!

BRING BACK BLEDSOE!!!! HE WON A SB IN 2001!!!

Bledsoe is a QUARTERBACK, a person who will beat you in the pocket. Romo is just an athlete, who runs around with his black-like athleticism.

You can only win with a guy back there who is willing to stay in the pocket and throw.

Draft King · 01-03-2007, 11:34 PM

All the huggers gone to bed. Ahwww, poor huggers can't defend Rivers.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf) · 01-14-2007, 08:40 PM

I'd like to see what the fangirls have to say now that the golden boy cost his team the Super Bowl.

Number 10 · 01-14-2007, 08:43 PM

Steelers fans now have something in common with Charger fans