College Basketball Thread - Page 308

adschofield · 03-17-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nvot9

The only serious one's I was considering was the Pitt vs Texas one and the WV vs. Duke game and in the end I only went with WV over Duke...if anyone was interested, I really like WV's team, they've won some big games...I'm a real Duke hater as well, not a fan of their Bball team the last few years...

Another serious question. Will Kansas make the Final Four? I mean in all honesty, I'd like to say no, I truly don't think they have what it takes, but more to the point, I don't think there is anyone who will contest them. I mean again, I'd like to say no because I don't think they necessarily "deserve" it (you don't have to agree with me) but who's gunna beat them? Can anyone in that region beat them?

What don't they have? What are they lacking?

BigJohn98 · 03-17-2008, 06:16 PM

Dickie V and I are on the same page. We have the exact same Final 4.

wiscbadgerfootball · 03-17-2008, 08:57 PM

the Sportscenter analyst's final four's were pretty brutal.. I think all of them had all 4 1 seeds

KCJ58 · 03-17-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wiscbadgerfootball

the Sportscenter analyst's final four's were pretty brutal.. I think all of them had all 4 1 seeds

I think it was fans voting and yea that always happens

wiscbadgerfootball · 03-17-2008, 09:00 PM

nah it wasn't the fan voting maybe it wasn't sportscenter

Cashmoney · 03-17-2008, 09:27 PM

That's because they're all unoriginal pricks.

wiscbadgerfootball · 03-17-2008, 09:29 PM

I'll say I think it is just boring to pick no upsets

Sniper · 03-17-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by adschofield

What don't they have? What are they lacking?

An ability to not choke when the going gets tough...

PalmerToCJ · 03-17-2008, 09:39 PM

On paper I think Kansas is the best team. I wouldn't doubt them winning it all... With that said, for forever I'd always pick them to go far then they choke, history is making me gun shy.

wiscbadgerfootball · 03-17-2008, 09:40 PM

I have North Carolina winning.. how uncreative I know.. but that's just the way my bracket worked out when I thought through it.

BrownsTown · 03-17-2008, 09:44 PM

Memphis is going all the way...hate all you want, they just don't lose. Lost only 1 game to a then #2 team. Rose, Douglas-Roberts, and Dorsey plus some really good role players. Watch out.

nvot9 · 03-17-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BrownsTown

Memphis is going all the way...hate all you want, they just don't lose. Lost only 1 game to a then #2 team. Rose, Douglas-Roberts, and Dorsey plus some really good role players. Watch out.

Perhaps you should watch out for their dreadful free throw shooting, mediocre three point shooting, and lack of proof by which they could win a big game.

nvot9 · 03-17-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PalmerToCJ

On paper I think Kansas is the best team. I wouldn't doubt them winning it all... With that said, for forever I'd always pick them to go far then they choke, history is making me gun shy.

Na UCLA is absolutely the best team on paper in my eyes.

Can you please tell me why they're the best team on paper though, I'm debating between them and G-Town for the final four so perhaps you will persuade me. :)

PalmerToCJ · 03-17-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nvot9

Na UCLA is absolutely the best team on paper in my eyes.

Can you please tell me why they're the best team on paper though, I'm debating between them and G-Town for the final four so perhaps you will persuade me. :)

They've got upperclassman, obviously a big plus. They're good on the inside and outside. They play great defense and can produce in the halfcourt or run if it permits. The only reason I have doubts about them is their history, not a lot to do with this season.

I don't think UCLA has the balance Kansas does. UCLA runs into trouble with perimeter scoring, with that said, I've got them in the championship game lol.

Nitschke-Hawk · 03-17-2008, 10:41 PM

I've got UCLA winning. Along with Kansas, Texas, North Carolina in the Final Four. Upset wise I think the one I have that would stand out most is that I have Arizona beating West Virginia and Duke. They were 16-6 when healthy, having both starting guards. This is in the Pac 10 of course, along with arguably the toughest schedule in all of College Basketball. Plus WVU and Duke aren't clearly better in my opinion when I factor everything into account.

P-L · 03-17-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PalmerToCJ

They've got upperclassman, obviously a big plus. They're good on the inside and outside. They play great defense and can produce in the halfcourt or run if it permits. The only reason I have doubts about them is their history, not a lot to do with this season.

I don't think UCLA has the balance Kansas does. UCLA runs into trouble with perimeter scoring, with that said, I've got them in the championship game lol.

If Bill Self wasn't Kansas' coach, I'd probably pick them to go all the way easily.

adschofield · 03-18-2008, 01:01 AM

So let me get this straight, since a team in 2004 choked to Bucknell, Kansas teams always have the ability to choke?

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever

But whatever, I'll let the haters hate...

yodapoop · 03-18-2008, 01:04 AM

I have the same final 4 as Bobby Knight.

adschofield · 03-18-2008, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by P-L

If Bill Self wasn't Kansas' coach, I'd probably pick them to go all the way easily.

Why? He's a top 5 coach... Oh but since Roy's team didn't buy into Self's system and got upset by Bucknell, I suppose Kansas always will choke, and we shouldn't even accept bids to the NCAA

We lost to Bradley because we had a team made up of entirely freshmen and sophomores, I don't really see that as a huge upset.

Upsets are a part of college basketball, Roy choked more than Self has, yet he still won a National Championship eventually. Every major program has been upset quite a few times, yet I don't see those teams and coaches being called and saying that they always choke.

adschofield · 03-18-2008, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by nvot9

Na UCLA is absolutely the best team on paper in my eyes.

Can you please tell me why they're the best team on paper though, I'm debating between them and G-Town for the final four so perhaps you will persuade me. :)

Kansas will dominate the boards in that game and use the best defense in the country to shut down G-Town's perimeter game. We just have way too many weapons on offense, inside and outside, to lose that game

yodapoop · 03-18-2008, 01:07 AM

But a different result,

Kansas beats UNC
UCLA beats Pitt

Kansas beats UCLA

adschofield · 03-18-2008, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SNIPER26

An ability to not choke when the going gets tough...

Oh yeah, like last when Southern Illnois had us on the ropes in the Sweet 16, oh wait....

Or how bout last year during the regular season when Florida came back to beat us, oh wait...

Or how bout in last year's Big 12 championship game, when we were down 19 points to Kevin Durant and co., we didn't come back in that game did we?

Or how bout in this year's Big 12 championship game where D.J. Augustin and A.J. Abrahms where trading shot for shot with us?

There's been plently of times when KU has won tough games over the past few years, but I guess since we lost to Bucknell, we'll never win another NCAA championship

adschofield · 03-18-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by yodachu

But a different result,

Kansas beats UNC
UCLA beats Pitt

Kansas beats UCLA

Yeah, I've got KU-UCLA in the finals too

But I have Louisville and Texas in the Final Four instead

I have Pitt in the Elite 8, but Texas is just too good

dabears10 · 03-18-2008, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by adschofield

Why? He's a top 5 coach... Oh but since Roy's team didn't buy into Self's system and got upset by Bucknell, I suppose Kansas always will choke, and we shouldn't even accept bids to the NCAA

We lost to Bradley because we had a team made up of entirely freshmen and sophomores, I don't really see that as a huge upset.

Upsets are a part of college basketball, Roy choked more than Self has, yet he still won a National Championship eventually. Every major program has been upset quite a few times, yet I don't see those teams and coaches being called and saying that they always choke.

Um Because he's never been to the Final 4? The team he left in U of I went to the Finals the next year. Bill Self has to prove he can do it just like Roy did. Until then people are allowed to dog him.

thetedginnshow · 03-18-2008, 02:17 AM

Everyone says this Kansas team is different and their road is easy enough for them to go all the way. I'm going to have them in the Final Four by default, at least in my mind. Haven't quite finished my bracket, though...