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Old 03-23-2008, 07:06 PM    (permalink
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Back to back titles perhaps? ;)

I see Lawson jumping though.
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Back to back titles perhaps? ;)

I see Lawson jumping though.
He's been gone since he had that stretch where he went something like 20:1 in A:T ratio. Him coming back playing like this only cements it. The only way he would have came back is if he played like absolute garbage in the tourney.

The one they should worry about is Ellington. Last time I talked to Marcus he told me he was thinking about jumping. Hansbrough was on the fence, though.

But heck, when you got bigs like they possibly will next year, I could play PG for them. Just toss that b**** inside and let them do work. haha
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Bobby Frasor is a solid player who they lost this season. Nothing jaw dropping but he can handle the rock and shoot it. I could see him running the point next season when Lawson leaves.
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Reffing was a job, Hibbert gets pushed out of the lane every time, Davidson is knocking Georgetown handlers in the arm all day, Georgetown breathes on Davidson and they go to the free throw line.
I figured if they lost you'd complain about something lol. Georgetown never was going to a title game like you said, and looks like my bet was right when we discussed this earlier. They have mental lapses and don't have a go to guy on that team. Hibbert actually regressed this season and they didn't have another guy step up outside of Summers and Wallace.

Davidson now gets Wisconsin, who is the most attention to detail team left in this tournament. Usually I'm not a big fan of the Badgers come tourney time but this team is difference because they are balanced. Flowers, Landry, Butch, Steisma, Krabbenhoft, Hughes, Bohannon...All of those guys can put up points for that team. They're the best defensive squad in the country and they are extremely disciplined. The only way Davidson wins is if they push the tempo and get the Badgers to follow suit. If it's a half court game I see Wisconsin advancing without a problem but if Davidson ups the tempo, an upset could be in the mix.
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UNC's frontcourt is just going to be outrageous the next few years.

I'm feeling Wisconsin in the Midwest... Memphis will bomb out soon enough, Calipari is a disgrace, of course you want talent but he gets it void of the players character... Plus he's as slimey as they come.
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And if I'm Ryan I tell Flowers to play physical against Curry, knock him off screens, body him when he gets the ball, maybe some hard fouls...Nothing dirty but play physical because Curry has about as much muscle mass as a 5th grader. Oh and when he comes off the screen, I trap it. Force the ball out of his hands and down let him get a rhythm shot, if he's going to beat you make it be off the bounce against the best defensive player in the Big 10 IMO, Michael Flowers (and yes I think he 's better than Chris Kramer and Chester Frazier defensively).
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I'm glad someone else besides me feels this way. He's a disgrace to the game and the fact that he gets away with the crap he does is ridiculous. He, Pearl, and Self are all alike, slimy coaches (and I've got some stories about old Billy Boy in regards to the recruitment of Rush, Chalmers, Collins, Arthur, and Wright). He's a piece of work.
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Bobby Frasor is a solid player who they lost this season. Nothing jaw dropping but he can handle the rock and shoot it. I could see him running the point next season when Lawson leaves.
He's got some durability problems. Dude is probably the best overall defender on the team besides Ginyard when he is healthy.

Larry Drew will push him, though. Drew is a serious floor leader.

I'm just hoping Hansbrough comes back one more year so Marcus can have another good run as a senior. I know T renewed his lease on his apartment with Marcus, but it was supposed to be one of those "just in case" moves.
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I'm glad someone else besides me feels this way. He's a disgrace to the game and the fact that he gets away with the crap he does is ridiculous. He, Pearl, and Self are all alike, slimy coaches (and I've got some stories about old Billy Boy in regards to the recruitment of Rush, Chalmers, Collins, Arthur, and Wright). He's a piece of work.

I am a big hater of Bill Self, I would really like to hear those stories.
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I have a great feeling about the Wisconsin-Davidson game. Davidson appears to revolve solely around Stephen Curry (from the 2 games I have seen). If they can stop him, they have a great chance of winning. Michael Flowers will undoubtedly be guarding him, and Flowers is one of the premier defenders in the nation (IMO). So here's to another UW win.. Go Badgers!
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He's got some durability problems. Dude is probably the best overall defender on the team besides Ginyard when he is healthy.

Larry Drew will push him, though. Drew is a serious floor leader.

I'm just hoping Hansbrough comes back one more year so Marcus can have another good run as a senior. I know T renewed his lease on his apartment with Marcus, but it was supposed to be one of those "just in case" moves.
Frasor is a great glue guy and we could really use him in this Tourney. Drew is nice, he'll be great for all of those big men.

Tyler back for one more year would be awesome. To be blunt, I don't think he has much of a pro career ahead of him other than a great energy sixth man, so might as well get a degree.
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I have a great feeling about the Wisconsin-Davidson game. Davidson appears to revolve solely around Stephen Curry (from the 2 games I have seen). If they can stop him, they have a great chance of winning. Michael Flowers will undoubtedly be guarding him, and Flowers is one of the premier defenders in the nation (IMO). So here's to another UW win.. Go Badgers!
Their Senior PG (#2 forget his name) and Lovedale are very key pieces as well. The fact that Curry put up 30+ despite what appeared to be stifling and physical defense is worrisome (I have Wisconsin over Davidson).

#2 (tied) in the picks tourney, but commie has Texas winning it all so I doubt he stays at the top.
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I saw a lot out of Rose today. Very impressed. He's so unbelievably bad at free throws though that it really takes away from the benefit to his physical style of play. Not sure what to think though. He still seems too willing to defer too often.
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I am a big hater of Bill Self, I would really like to hear those stories.
Collins - All but headed to Illinois (gave Weber a verbal on his visit), then his High School Coach Nate Longstreet at Chicago Crane and his connections to Self and KU steered him away.

Chalmers - Hired on his father to the University to land him. They made a mention of his dad being employed by KU after Mario got injured at the end of the UNLV.

Wright - Self told his mom that she wouldn't have to pay for anything if he attended KU, that everything would be taken care of (Julian made a mention of this after he was picked by New Orleans on draft day). His mom never made a visit to Lawrence either, and I think I heard he didn't either.

Rush - Didn't have the core classes to attend Illinois and somehow got the grades to go to Kansas all of the sudden. I believe he's what, 22 now.

Arthur - Something happened on the eve of his decision to switch his mind. He was headed to another school and shocked everyone by picking Kansas.

Self also told the Wright family that Champaign is a racist place, he's used negative recruiting against us, he was recruiting for KU on Illinois' dime, and he lied to the Illinois players and fans before he left. He's a piece of ****.
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Collins - All but headed to Illinois (gave Weber a verbal on his visit), then his High School Coach Nate Longstreet at Chicago Crane and his connections to Self and KU steered him away.

Chalmers - Hired on his father to the University to land him. They made a mention of his dad being employed by KU after Mario got injured at the end of the UNLV.

Wright - Self told his mom that she wouldn't have to pay for anything if he attended KU, that everything would be taken care of (Julian made a mention of this after he was picked by New Orleans on draft day). His mom never made a visit to Lawrence either, and I think I heard he didn't either.

Rush - Didn't have the core classes to attend Illinois and somehow got the grades to go to Kansas all of the sudden. I believe he's what, 22 now.

Arthur - Something happened on the eve of his decision to switch his mind. He was headed to another school and shocked everyone by picking Kansas.

Self also told the Wright family that Champaign is a racist place, he's used negative recruiting against us, he was recruiting for KU on Illinois' dime, and he lied to the Illinois players and fans before he left. He's a piece of ****.
Well, that's a helluva group of players right there and it all sounds bad.. But I think they believe him because he had just came from Illinois, he's leaving for KU so he automatically looks like a good guy to them. Several were being recruited by Illinois as well. I'm glad Weber and Bo Ryan aren't like that, two absolute classy guys, and they're better coaches on court than Self. (I personally think Bo Ryan's the most underrated coach in college right now.) But at the same time the only thing keeping them from National Titles is top notch talent. (Although I love the structure of Wisconsin's team, they have key experienced players each year. They never rely on young players but at the same time they have Hughes and Krabbenhoft to take over next year.) If Self was still at Illinois they might be in Kansas' spot right now, maybe would've gotten Scheyer and Eric Gordon who knows.
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If Self was at Illinois we would have landed Collins, Rose, Scheyer, Wright, and etc and we would be better off than we are right now as far as winning goes...But he's also a shady recruiter and a liar, plus a mediocre game coach.

Weber may have had his shortcomings as a recruiter when he first got here but outside of UNC, he's had the hottest recruiting streak of anyone in the nation.
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I'm very upset that I took Xavier in that game. It was too risky to have WVU in the Elite 8. We'll see what happens.
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Georgetown might be better next year for the tourny (whether or not it shows record wise, not sure). as solid as wallace was, he wasn't that quick, and neither is Sapp. Getting Chris Wright in there full time should help. Hibbert was obviously a presence, but in some ways, he limited them, as there was some overreliance on him. Henry Sims and Greg Monroe (forget who the third one is) will add to that stable of big mean, and they'll fit better provided they develop.

Duke needs Thomas (or Zoubek) to develop. They can live with Singler at the 4. They can't live with Henderson at the 4 and Singler at the 5. Also, for a small lineup, they weren't THAT superbly quick to be able to take advantage of it, and once they were worn down, they were in trouble.

The matchup I want to see - Russell Westbrook vs. Ty Lawson. I think Westbrook can slow him down, but whether he can do enough, well, that's why I'm curious.

I won't be surprised if Davidson beats Wisconsin. The matchup works out alright for them. In the end, I think Wisconsin pulls it out, as they are too big and physical inside, but if they can get some early fouls on Butch and Co., Davidson has a shot. I don't think many are going to give Washington State a shot, but I am really, really intrigued with that game.
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I agree with you on the Washington State game toon, I think that's a very interesting matchup.
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I would love to see UNC-UCLA in finals. great matchups there, besides Westbrook and Lawson there's also Love Hansbrough, and I want to see if Collison takes over that game like he's capable of doing.
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alexander doesnt have an attitude problem; hes takin on the personality of his coach, bob huggins; that aggressive, in your face style, with trash talking; wvu's teams will be like that while hes the coach, and i love that style
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When told that the Mountaineers had just beaten a team with eight McDonald’s all-Americans, Alexander seemed startled. He arched his eyebrows and asked in a serious tone, “Who?”
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“People are always hating on the Big East,” Alexander said. “I don’t understand why. We came in fifth in the Big East and we manhandled a good A.C.C. team.”
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Alexander said, “We knew that coming in that they were just going to stand around and not rebound, so we were ready to exploit that.”

In the first half, Alexander, who is 6 feet 8 inches, blocked a shot by Duke guard DeMarcus Nelson in the post, then let out a scream.

“I told him that he shouldn’t shoot anymore,” Alexander said. “He was actually very nice to me for the rest of the game.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/sp...&oref=s login

While that's all entertaining, there's a difference between trash talking and actually disrespecting your opponent. Now while that may have come from Huggins (though that's most likely not the case since he's only been around for a year and you can't necessarily teach someone's character in a year), it isn't what I'd like to see in my players and honestly, I highly doubt that's particularly what Huggins is coaching. I like confident, in-your-face players that bring swagger to the game (and he certainly has that), but that isn't what this is. And of course people will just have to like this stuff though since they hate Duke, but eh. He's still my third or fourth favorite player in the college ranks, but until I see further proof there's no denying in my mind that he isn't in that upper echelon of guys in terms of character. I heard he's very coachable though. And I'm not saying this is a huge red flag, but just putting it out in the open.

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12 of 16 Sweet 16 teams and Final Four still in tact, all in all, a good weekend despite UConn losing.

The four teams I missed were Washington State (Notre Dame), Michigan State (Pittsburg), Western Kentucky (UConn), and Villanova (Clemson)

I really am proud of myself for picking Davidson. The rest of my family is pissed at me because I taunted them about it, as they all had G'Town in the Final 4.

Tennessee, Kansas, Texas, UCLA is my Final 4, with Tennessee beating Texas for the NC.
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I like Memphis. Like alot of their players, but depsie John Callipari with a passion. Hate that man soo much. Was on board when the Nets made some nice trades, but couldn't coach for ****.
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If Self was at Illinois we would have landed Collins, Rose, Scheyer, Wright, and etc and we would be better off than we are right now as far as winning goes...But he's also a shady recruiter and a liar, plus a mediocre game coach.

Weber may have had his shortcomings as a recruiter when he first got here but outside of UNC, he's had the hottest recruiting streak of anyone in the nation.
Oh yeah I forgot Derrick Rose how could I do that. I just remembered Patrick Beverly too, I don't know how he got to Arkansas.

But yeah after looking at rivals stuff. 07 and 09 classes look real strong.
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