2013 Philadelphia Eagles Draft Thread

[SickwithIt1010]

If I had it my way I would take Star at 4 if available or trade back and take a guy like Xavier Rhodes.

[SickwithIt1010]

God, I wish more eagles fans posted here. Went over to an eagles message board to get more discussion and let me tell ya...by far the dumbest ******* group of people I have ever listened too.

[eaglesalltheway]

Yeah its pretty bad. I haven't been following football as closely as I have in years past and I still feel like I'm able to come a a reasonable, realistic, unbiased opinion easier than most of the ones in other places.

Now that Star has checked out medically, I really hope he is the pick. He has the best chance of anyone in this class to become a big time player, and (outside of the QBs) the best chance to be an impact, star player. He's got everything you want in a top DL prospect, size, strength, athleticism, and smarts. Just where I'm at.

[SickwithIt1010]

Originally Posted by eaglesalltheway

Yeah its pretty bad. I haven't been following football as closely as I have in years past and I still feel like I'm able to come a a reasonable, realistic, unbiased opinion easier than most of the ones in other places.

Now that Star has checked out medically, I really hope he is the pick. He has the best chance of anyone in this class to become a big time player, and (outside of the QBs) the best chance to be an impact, star player. He's got everything you want in a top DL prospect, size, strength, athleticism, and smarts. Just where I'm at.

I agree, I am for Star or a trade back if possible. I really do not like the idea of Dion Jordan.

[superman8456]

Geno Smith visiting Philly today. This seems a little too elaborate to be a smokescreen.

[eaglesalltheway]

Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

I agree, I am for Star or a trade back if possible. I really do not like the idea of Dion Jordan.

If Star is gone, I wouldn't be opposed to Dion. i personally like the body and skillset he brings to the table. Much like Star has versatility, so does Dion, its just their ranges are slightly different. Chip values versatility, so neither would be a surprise for me, though I do prefer Star, not only because of my opinion of him as a prospect, but the needs on the team right now are more toward DL rather than rush backer, which is what I think Dion's primary role would be.

I also am not completely opposed to Geno Smith. Either way, when you are the #4 team on the draft board, you better at least do your due diligence and scout what most people feel is the #1 QB in the class, especially when your QB situation is as murky as ours. I'd imagine it isn't completely a smokescreen or a genuine interest, things of these nature can never be. When you are a GM you are almost playing poker, and trying to figure out how to handle each card (player) and how your opponents will think based off your actions.

[cunningham06]

Originally Posted by eaglesalltheway

If Star is gone, I wouldn't be opposed to Dion. i personally like the body and skillset he brings to the table. Much like Star has versatility, so does Dion, its just their ranges are slightly different. Chip values versatility, so neither would be a surprise for me, though I do prefer Star, not only because of my opinion of him as a prospect, but the needs on the team right now are more toward DL rather than rush backer, which is what I think Dion's primary role would be.

I also am not completely opposed to Geno Smith. Either way, when you are the #4 team on the draft board, you better at least do your due diligence and scout what most people feel is the #1 QB in the class, especially when your QB situation is as murky as ours. I'd imagine it isn't completely a smokescreen or a genuine interest, things of these nature can never be. When you are a GM you are almost playing poker, and trying to figure out how to handle each card (player) and how your opponents will think based off your actions.

Good post, agreed on all points. Star is my favorite and I'm hoping he's the pick. We would also be the perfect place for Dion Jordan to go to. Make no mistake he's a bit of a project. He needs to continue strengthening that shoulder and he needs to add weight to his frame. We could bring him along slowly like the Texans did with Mercilus last year. His physical ability is rare and he could be an elite pass rusher one day.

There aren't really any players that we would realistically take that would make me throw my remote at the tv.

*Assuming we don't have an out-of-left-field Danny Watkins selection*

If the FO decides Geno is worth the pick then I trust their judgment and won't be upset. We need a qb of the future and don't currently have one.

[AcheTen]

Why would the Eagles draft Dion Jordan?

That basically puts Brandon Graham on the bench. Graham is the single most talented pass rusher of anyone on the roster OR in the draft. He has Defensive Player of the Year potential.

To put him on the bench for some rookie (who doesn't even have great pass rush stats in college) would be criminal. It's bad enough they signed Connor Barwin which puts into doubt Graham's starting status.

[SickwithIt1010]

Everything that has came out points to the Eagles running the 4-3 over look that is being ran in Seattle. Cole/Graham/Hunt/ all fit into the "predator" role that is the stand up end, while right now the only guy we would have to play the SAM is Barwin and I feel that would be why Dion would be drafted.

The guy is so raw right now, and its not like most rushers that come out. He's very polished as a coverage guy right now, and lacks a lot in the rush department. Very soft against the run as well...while he is raw and has some extreme ability, I just don't think he's gonna work out. Barwin can play the SAM, and Graham/Cole will rotate at the predator.

Make Star the pick and play him at the 5 technique, and let him get on the nose as well.



Barwin---Demeco---Kendricks
Star---ICE----Cox---Graham/Cole
T---G---C---G---T

Would be the ideal look, and I think it would be a damn good looking front 7.

[gpngc]

That looks about right. They definitely need a guy who could play 5 and Star can also play some 1 or 3 so that's good.

I just don't think he's that sought after honestly. I think teams have him in the teens, not top 5.

[AcheTen]

The only picks that make sense for the Eagles if they stay at #4 are:

1. One of the top DTs: Star Lotulelei or Shariff Floyd
2. One of the top OTs: Luke Joeckel or Eric Fisher

That's it.

[BuckeyeDan17]

Hey dudes.

Is Dion Lewis decent for a COP back to Trent?

[eaglesalltheway]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeDan17

Hey dudes.

Is Dion Lewis decent for a COP back to Trent?

He's definitely a change of pace to Trent, that's for sure. He's got quicks, and some really quick feet when he is assertive in his running, but I've noticed he is hesitant as a runner sometimes, and doesn't always see the cutback lane open up. He always seemed more comfortable running off the edge, but he's still young, and has shown the ability to get some big chunks of yardage when he touches the ball.

[superman8456]

I like the addition of Acho, doesn't seem to hurt. We have a sick RB carousel with McCoy, Brown, and Polk anyway.

As the draft approaches, trading down is looking better and better. I really do not want Dion Jordan. Probably only player who just screams bust.

[cunningham06]

Originally Posted by superman8456

I like the addition of Acho, doesn't seem to hurt. We have a sick RB carousel with McCoy, Brown, and Polk anyway.

As the draft approaches, trading down is looking better and better. I really do not want Dion Jordan. Probably only player who just screams bust.

Ya I want to see us take a player who is good value at a position of need. Star's my #1 choice. I just don't view OLB as big enough of a need to take Jordan at #4.

[SickwithIt1010]

I mentioned it in the bust thread. Jordan is a Manny Lawson clone...and you don't take those guys in the top 5. They're nice to have...but not top 5 worthy.

In the mock draft controlling the eagles right now, I like it...not as much as I expected but still good

- Traded 4th overall and got Revis and picked up pick 39 as well.
- Also got Revis to extend his contract 4 years.

- 2a) Jesse Williams
- Figured he would jump in at the 5 tech this season and be the long term guy at the nose when ICE isn't around anymore.

- 2b) Barrett Jones
- Gives us a guy who can play every position on the line and likely start right away at right guard (we traded Watkins). Also familiarity with the O Line coach.

- 3) Bacarri Rambo
- Was one of our favorite safties in the draft. Good back up and insurance policy if Kenny goes down.

- 4) Matt Scott
- May have been a reach, but I like him more and more as a fit in this scheme. Is supposedly up to 215 which is way up from his 196 playing weight at U of A. I feel he is also underrated as a passer.

- 5) Luke Marquardt
- Thought he was a guy with a ton of upside, we wanted Queesenberry but he didnt make it to our pick and we wanted at least one guy at tackle.

- 5b) (Aquired of Tradeing Brent Celek) Knile Davis
- Took him with the believe he is an unbelievable change of pace to Shady and Bryce. He has great measurables and even though he didnt live up to expectations this past season he was also coming off a leg injury.

[yno88]

Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

I mentioned it in the bust thread. Jordan is a Manny Lawson clone...and you don't take those guys in the top 5. They're nice to have...but not top 5 worthy.

Interesting comparison. I still think he's in the picture with Kelly there.

No one has ever said, "we have WAY too many pass rushers."

[Robbieb7]

1. Luke Joeckel OT Texas A&M or Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma
2. Matt Elam SS Florida
3. Gavin Escobar TE San Diego State
4. Bennie Logan DT LSU
5. Kwame Geathers NT Georgia
7. Michael Mauti ILB Penn State
7. Michael Clay OLB Oegon
7. Nickell Robey CB USC
7. Courtney Gardner WR Sierra College

[SickwithIt1010]

Originally Posted by Robbieb7

1. Luke Joeckel OT Texas A&M or Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma
2. Matt Elam SS Florida
3. Gavin Escobar TE San Diego State
4. Bennie Logan DT LSU
5. Kwame Geathers NT Georgia
7. Michael Mauti ILB Penn State
7. Michael Clay OLB Oegon
7. Nickell Robey CB USC
7. Courtney Gardner WR Sierra College

Robey is going to go before the 7th. Hes a great cover corner, just sucks hes not that big. He will be a great pick up for someone who needs a nickel.

[superman8456]

Good call with the Lane Johnson pick. Kinda sucks to think we had the #4 overall pick and we ended up with the 3rd best offensive tackle in the class. Building through the trenches was the smart, safe play though. Hopefully we get a defensive playmaker today.

Nonetheless, it was a crazy first round. Geno Smith is looking like a good value with our 2nd rounder, if we were to go QB at all through this draft.

[SickwithIt1010]

Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

Robey is going to go before the 7th. Hes a great cover corner, just sucks hes not that big. He will be a great pick up for someone who needs a nickel.

Shows how much I know.