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Old 04-30-2011, 10:48 AM    (permalink
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I really hate to pigeon hole Rbs into a certain role like that. Felix got a lot of that "change of pace" stuff when he came out. Long term, I def. viewed Felix as more than that. And if we get that line fixed, there is no reason why Felix cant be one of the more dynamic starting Rbs in the league. Felix has all the tools needed to be a 3 down back. And I see a lot of that in Murray as well. If he can block, run between the tackles, and even catch the ball out of the backfield...there is no reason why he cant become a starter in this league one day. Now, I dont see that happening on Dallas...but he can certainly be a starter in this league, imo. A lot of these kids, arent even given a real starters chance out of school. But so many of them actually do become starters. Murray def. has all those tools necessary.
I don't think he can be a starter at this level. According, to Mike M. Murray is a 3rd down back, won't make people miss, and is a straight line runner who can catch the ball. I don't see the versatility in his game to be a successful starter unless your OL can run block like ours did in '07, allowing you to plug and play Rbs. That's what helped Jacobs to be productive and get 5 yards per carry, even though he is not as good.
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Classic Kenrick Ellis right there. He may not have even been on our board.
That actually kind of cheers me up. lol. But Bailey was there too. :(
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He doesnt have a lot of wiggle...but he does have excellent instincts and vision. He's always going forward. He's a one cut and go type...and when he goes, he goes a long way. haha. He's a solid back. And his ability to catch the ball does make him a rather versatile weapon. He has plenty of starter qualities.
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He reminds me of Clinton Portis.

Which is pretty good if you ask me.
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He doesnt have a lot of wiggle...but he does have excellent instincts and vision. He's always going forward. He's a one cut and go type...and when he goes, he goes a long way. haha. He's a solid back. And his ability to catch the ball does make him a rather versatile weapon. He has plenty of starter qualities.
I don't think he can be starter, and plus you guys got enough RBs, including Choice and Jones who is a first rounder. I don't think Murray will be anything more than 3rd round back. He runs kinda tall, and can't make people miss. Plus your OL isn't good at run blocking so I don't expect holes for him to run with ease and go untouched.

I'd be damn surprised if he becomes a successful starter.
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I don't think he can be starter, and plus you guys got enough RBs, including Choice and Jones who is a first rounder. I don't think Murray will be anything more than 3rd round back. He runs kinda tall, and can't make people miss. Plus your OL isn't good at run blocking so I don't expect holes for him to run with ease and go untouched.

I'd be damn surprised if he becomes a successful starter.
Dont get me wrong...I dont think he'll ever start here. I think Felix is poised to break out, as we fix that O-Line and fully establish himself as our lead back. But as I viewed Murray as a prospect for other teams...I def. saw a player with all the makings/capabilities of a 3 down back.
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To be completely honest I expected a majorly BPA approach to the draft... Why take a safety early when you have a project (AoA) one year in, several UDFA who performed well enough to earn a spot, and from all indications a veteran waiting to be signed (Huff/Weddle/Mikel/etc).

Think we are going a little bit too far into the 'sky is falling' routine and not looking deep enough at the picks. Value wise (BPA) we hit on our picks.

Tyron - Good value and pegs the starting RT position. A+

Bruce - Great value. Top 15-20 talent prior to his ACL and from what I've seen recently should be gearing up to go prior to the season. When you have the opportunity to land an immense talent at a position of need (Our ILBs are aging and need replaced within the next 2 years) it is really hard to argue regardless of who is on board.

Murray - Head scratch-er at first but then think about it. Who in our RB rotation can pass protect? Only Barber. Which RB has ST value? Only our starter Felix. Which RB can spell Felix? Choice - but considering Garrett's aversion to using him... Value wise it's right in line and considering the extensive work we did with Rackley he obviously didn't meet the value pick here.

Jumping on the draft now makes little to no sense considering how long it takes to evaluate a prospect. If Barber is out and we fill his 3rd down role with Murray that's a large gain on a starting role. Murray also returns kicks? Bonus. If our evaluation of Rackley was to the point where we thought it was best to take a 3rd Down/Spell/ST back in Murray instead of a potential starting man on the o-line then I'm more than satisfied with the pick.
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I don't think he can be a starter at this level. According, to Mike M. Murray is a 3rd down back, won't make people miss, and is a straight line runner who can catch the ball. I don't see the versatility in his game to be a successful starter unless your OL can run block like ours did in '07, allowing you to plug and play Rbs. That's what helped Jacobs to be productive and get 5 yards per carry, even though he is not as good.
I also don't see him as a starter either. But that's not as important to me as putting him in the right role in the rotation and getting him involved. Garrett fell in love with him at his team visit. Murray is a high character guy and is so excited to be a Cowboy. I could tell it in his phone call with Garrett. He's ready to do whatever the team wants him to do and do whatever he can to get better. He's a worker.

I'm gonna give Garrett a chance here, before I crush the pick.
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F. There goes Hogan. The guy I wanted MOST today.
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F. There goes Hogan. The guy I wanted MOST today.
Hoping for Ballard or Gates. Although counting the whole day I'd love to see Love (lol) or Cannon :)
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Hoping for Ballard or Gates. Although counting the whole day I'd love to see Love (lol) or Cannon :)
I've given up on Cannon. I don't want to deal with his health.

Boling though would be a coup! Ballard wouldn't be bad either.
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I think you should stop mentioning guys D...lol. They keep flying off the board.
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I think you should stop mentioning guys D...lol. They keep flying off the board.
lol yeah. I had no faith in him lasting that long he wasn't even in my list :(
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I think you should stop mentioning guys D...lol. They keep flying off the board.
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****! Boling is like Jake Long as at Guard. I REALLY liked him. DAMN.
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I'm gonna be pissed when we go TE here. lol.
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6 picks away. Will Ballard get to us? House???
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Well Houston just traded their pick to the Skins.... hmmm... Ballard??
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Helu for the Skins.... OK.... Now we really need some beef on the DL. Helu is a Hoss.
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BYE, BYE BALLARD.

Come...on!!!! I thought God was a Cowboys fan!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dude, stop naming guys. Everyone you've named has gone. I wanted Ballard so bad. ****.
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I don't think we go DL because we do have Brent and Lissamore and why draft a player who might not make the team. I think we have enough big bodies up there. Any DL will not start this year and would have a hard time making the team.

I think CB or S should be the pick.....

Is Sands a risk?
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There are no DEs left...

DB, G, or WR here, imo. Perferably Gates.
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He is 25 years old....Too old? But who knows....
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Quintin Carter anyone?
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