2013 Canes

[thebow305]

DAMN that was a nice win! The U is back baby!!

[draftguru151]

You said that after TAMU last season! I'll wait until we get to the ACC until I get too happy. I love the young talent we have though and Marve is legit. Sharpton and Reddick are dominating on D, we need better play from the DTs and CBs though, everyone else was studly except for a few missed tackles, Jojo needs to pick it up some too. OL looked very good for the most part, play calling was great, got the ball to the playmakers and threw it down field. Would have liked to see McNeal and Chambers more though.

[BamaFalcon59]

Good win for ya'll. But Texas A&M did lose to Arkansas State.

Originally Posted by BamaFalcon59

Good win for ya'll. But Texas A&M did lose to Arkansas State.

No need to troll. Lord knows your program has looked pretty bad so far this year ranging from the loss to ECU (a team that lost to NC State) and the coaching staffs horrible decision to redshirt TT.

Originally Posted by djp4516

Crack open a beer guys, this is Miami Hurricanes football at its finest.

Robert Marve = truth
Pimp = truth
Bill Young = truth

Pimp looked good and Benjamin made some nice plays. Marve is the man. His knack for picking up even a handful of positive yards even on broken ugly plays is impressive.

Bill Young has some sweet schemes but we are still a little thin at DT and CB like guru stated. We are still another year away guys. once that 2010 class comes in, we will be loaded.

[fenikz]

interesting stat

Miami's Rushing: 444 Yards, 4.31 YPC, 7 TD
Miami's Opponents: 225 Yards, 2.45 YPC, 1 TD

Originally Posted by fenikz

interesting stat

Miami's Rushing: 444 Yards, 4.31 YPC, 7 TD
Miami's Opponents: 225 Yards, 2.45 YPC, 1 TD

Key to winning starts in the trenches. There's the stats to back that up. We need to keep it going.

[Finsfan79]

this week will be interesting We need to win it build up those ACC wins

[504 to ATL]

Who from this last class gets a fair amount of PT, that and makes an impact on the field?

Aside from the DT (Forston), LB (Spence), 2 WR's(Byrd, Johnson), S (Telemaque), CB (Harris).

Originally Posted by 504 to ATL

Who from this last class gets a fair amount of PT, that and makes an impact on the field?

Aside from the DT (Forston), LB (Spence), 2 WR's(Byrd, Johnson), S (Telemaque), CB (Harris).

More like who doesn't.

Your list is lacking alot of people. Here are the rundown on the freshmen.

QB-Jacory Harris has a start and has played in all 3 games. Hasn't turned the ball over at all.

FB- John Calhoun is our backup and has seen some PT as well as being on special teams.

WR- Aldarius Johnson is starting, Travis Benjamin has been playing alot and had a 44 punt return last week. Theron Collier caught a 26 yard TD last week and had a 66 yard TD catch called back for illegal formation. Laron Bryd, Kendall Thompkins and Davon Johnson have all seen the field at times as well.

DE- Marcus Robinson has a start already and he and Andrew Smith have been in the DE rotation.

DT- Marcus Forston is basically a starter and Micanor Regis is basically our top backup at DT. Jeremy Lewis has seen some garbage time.

LB- Spence has arguably been the best freshman in the nation. Jordan Futch has seen some garbage time, however, he and Arthur Brown are pretty steady on special teams.

CB- Brandon Harris has worked his way into the starting lineup permanently and is likely our best CB on the team.

S- Vaughn Telemaque might be our best Special teams player this season and Ramon Buchanan has seen time there as well.


We really only have a handful of redshirt candidates:

CJ Holton, Brandon Marti, Tommy Streeter, Jake Wieclaw, Joe Wylie, Gavin Hardin, Taylor Cook and Cannon Smith are really our only redshirt guys. Thats only 9 guys out of a class of 33 that we signed so you can get a feel for just how many freshman we have been playing.

When we say we are young, we really mean we are young. Our freshman are the ones that are basically getting all the PT at the important positions (WR, CB, DT, QB, and add Spence in there)

[504 to ATL]

Originally Posted by Joeyjr09

Your list is lacking alot of people. Here are the rundown on the freshmen.

QB-Jacory Harris has a start and has played in all 3 games. Hasn't turned the ball over at all.

WR-Travis Benjamin
WR-Theron Collier

DE- Marcus Robinson has a start already and he and Andrew Smith have been in the DE rotation.

DT-Micanor Regis is basically our top backup at DT.

Yeah I am just going by the games I have seen, vs UF and A&M.

I meant to edit for Jacory but I forgot.

I did not know about those 2 WR's. They are definitely plenty involved in the games.

I did not know about the DE's, nor the other DT.

Aside from those I meant non mop up, non special teams players. Unless of course the special team guy is a specialists like Benjamin.

Originally Posted by 504 to ATL

Yeah I am just going by the games I have seen, vs UF and A&M.

I meant to edit for Jacory but I forgot.

I did not know about those 2 WR's. They are definitely plenty involved in the games.

I did not know about the DE's, nor the other DT.

Aside from those I meant non mop up, non special teams players. Unless of course the special team guy is a specialists like Benjamin.

Well if you wanna take away special teamers (I don't know why, that's a huge part of the game right there) Here are the ones that have already made an impact as a regular or is expected to bring in fairly soon and be in the mix throughout the year.

But we have

QB-Jacory Harris

WR- Aldarius Johnson. Theron Collier. Travis Benjamin. Laron Bryd.

DE- Marcus Robinson. Andrew Smith.

DT- Marcus Forston. Micanor Regis

LB-Sean Spence. Jordan Futch.

CB- Brandon Harris

S- Vaughn Telemaque

[djp]

It's soooooo nice to see true playmakers at WR in Aldarius, Collier, and Benjamin.

Collier looked unbelievable vs A&M. One of the few times that a WR everyone said dominated in the Spring and in Fall practice that actually performed on the field lately.

[djp]

[djp]

LOL @ the meltdown on CaneSport...

A wise man once told me, never get too high on the wins, and never get too low on the losses.

5 reasons for the loss.

1) Taking Marve out in the first half
2) Demarcus Van Dyke and Chavez Grant were toasted all day
3) Bruce Johnson going for the ball instead of the tackle on the long TD pass
4) Bill Young continuing to put pressure on our own bad secondary by blitzing so much.. you don't have Aqib Talib here yet, Bill
5) 3rd down runs... those stupid misdirection shotgun runs are awful

I really was starting to believe in Nix in the first half after watching the A&M game last week, but he pussyfooted the whole 2nd half and it didn't help anything.

[draftguru151]

Yea coaching was a bit bleh, I don't remember us blitzing much though, we definitely needed more pressure than we were getting (especially by the front 4). Play calling started off fine but went down hill, I don't like how Cooper barely plays in the 2nd quarter (same thing happened against TAMU). Passing game wasn't near vertical enough, too much underneath stuff that didn't have potential to do much. All the CBs got beat pretty evenly from what I remember, not entirely sure though. Defense definitely wasn't at the level it was the last two games. Coop played great (and Kayne too) but other than that everyone is to blame to some extent. Young guys need to learn to not let off when we get ahead. Definitely need to learn from this game.

This is easily the worst game we have played so far this season. Without a doubt. The fact we played very poorly and still had command of that game throughout is very encouraging. UNC never lead until 45 seconds left. I chalk this one up to rookie mistakes. UNC is simply more mature and more used to playing together and it showed. Our young pups let them hang around and they made the plays down the stretch to win the game.

We had trouble getting to the QB at times. And our CBs (thank God we have 4 new ones coming in next season) looked overmatched on some plays, althought they did have a couple nice coverages as well. Overall, I didn't think the defense was the problem. They could have played better but they were not at all the reason we lost this game. I was getting worried in the 3rd quarter because I knew they would wear down with the amount of time they were on the field. Guess what, 14 points in the final 9 minutes of the game is usually signs of wearing down. Our offense just completely stalled after the 1st quarter. Remember, the defense is still a work in progress, Young has only been here 4 games. We are gonna have ups and downs. Today was down but they still held a pretty strong offensive team to 28 points.

I have been a big Nix supporter because I wasn't sure he was given a fair shake. But his playcalling has been horrendous. I have to believe the boosters will force Randy's hand into firing him after the season.

How many times can we do a 1 step drop, throw to the sideline to the WR for a 1 yard gain? How many bubble screens are we gonna throw? How many RB draws from the shotgun are we gonna run? How often are we gonna call a QB draw? How often are we gonna call a roll out with a WR/TE drag for a 5 yard gain?

I basically just named the entire playbook. I was calling the play we were about to run from my seat in the stands before it ever happened. There's nothing new ever. There's no adjustments, and he's not using the talent we have on offense to the best of their abilities.

Marve has a gun. Why aren't we calling some crossing patterns, or some fly patterns, or God forbid we call a deep slant. Why aren't we lobbing the ball over Aldarius shoulder and letting him outmuscle the small CBs like we have seen flashes of already this season? Why can't we try putting 3 WRs on one side of the ball in order to create some confusion with our speedy guys like Davon Johnson, Benjamin and Collier with Coop coming out of the backfield.

You never see anything like this and it's all pretty basic stuff. It's simple, open up the field. It's much harder to defend 25 yards worth of open field then it is to defend just 10 yards worth of sideline.

I though Nix was the biggest reason we lost this game. You expect the players to make the types of mistakes we had today. They are all very young, it's gonna happen. It's the coaching staff to push them and make it happen. We saw Bill Young do it with 3:30 left in the game. Everyone in the stadium knew UNC was gonna throw to get the 1st. What does Bill do? Instead of dropping back into coverage, he blitzes our best CB who comes up with a huge sack and takes them out of FG range. That was a great playcall. That was the type of inventive thinking we need from our coaches.

It was the offense for Patrick Nix. He looked ok to start the 1st quarter but then he remembered he was Patrick Nix and he went into shut down mode. Suddenly, nothing in the middle of the field, nothing downfield. UNC adjusted to stop our running game and Nix instead of adjusting back and throwing over the top, he went to move bubble screens and underneath passing. Nothing inventive. Just the same old tired stuff we have seen for 2 seasons.

No reason why we have 17 points the 1st 18 minutes of the game and only finish with 24. Horrible game by Nix.

If I had to guess, I think this will be Nix's final season in Miami.

[draftguru151]

Well I'm pretty sure the 1 step passes to the WRs are something that Marve does if he sees the CB off on run plays (or at least that's how I'm familiar with plays like that happening, could be different for us though), but on a whole Nix does need to improve. I think he is still trying to be protective of the young guys, he did add an new wrinkle with the WR sweeps though that isn't really enough. I definitely don't want to start the fire Nix campaign right now, if the offenses continues to be vanilla and inconsistent through the whole season then yea I wouldn't be shocked to see Nix gone but I think this is a bit of an overreaction after a tough loss.

Originally Posted by draftguru151

Well I'm pretty sure the 1 step passes to the WRs are something that Marve does if he sees the CB off on run plays (or at least that's how I'm familiar with plays like that happening, could be different for us though), but on a whole Nix does need to improve. I think he is still trying to be protective of the young guys, he did add an new wrinkle with the WR sweeps though that isn't really enough. I definitely don't want to start the fire Nix campaign right now, if the offenses continues to be vanilla and inconsistent through the whole season then yea I wouldn't be shocked to see Nix gone but I think this is a bit of an overreaction after a tough loss.

This has nothing to do with the tough loss. This has been a long time coming. From the Florida game. To the 2nd half of last week against Texas A&M. (We should have score more then 34 points against that horrible defense) to today's horrendus play calls at UNC.

I would have no problem if I saw things getting better slowly and building and more wrinkles and new plays but this has been going on since last season (he was awful last year but got a pass because of Kyle/Kirby) and on into this season, he still hasn't added anything new the offense.

[etk]

This is getting ridiculous men. It's tough to blame the OC for the loss when the D gives up 28 points, but our offensive output wasn't and isn't near where it should be considering talent and strength of opponent. Nix is holding us back....plain and simple. Marve has the talent to be this year's Sam Bradford and we're treating him like Kirby Freeman with the playcalling. Our receivers are fast and can make plays and we're not giving them opportunities to make said plays. Benjamin and Collier should be getting more touches while AJ should get some iso plays against man coverage where he's special. Where's Jermaine McKenzie? All I see right now is poor use of personnel and poor playcalling on offense. If that was AJ instead of Farquharson on the post at the end it would've been a TD, not an INT.

On defense, I place the blame solely on the players themselves. We got absolutely no pressure up front, blitz or no blitz. Our defensive line was lazy and sluggish. UNC has no run game but we didn't drive through contact and gave up some first downs when we shouldn't have. Our corners got toasted time and time again but even a slight pass rush would've helped tremendously. Receivers shouldn't be running double moves and catching passes when we send 7 or 8 guys to get to the QB.

All game I was screaming at Nix's playcalling and I'm glad everyone else noticed. Enough is enough.

Originally Posted by etk

This is getting ridiculous men. It's tough to blame the OC for the loss when the D gives up 28 points, but our offensive output wasn't and isn't near where it should be considering talent and strength of opponent. Nix is holding us back....plain and simple. Marve has the talent to be this year's Sam Bradford and we're treating him like Kirby Freeman with the playcalling. Our receivers are fast and can make plays and we're not giving them opportunities to make said plays. Benjamin and Collier should be getting more touches while AJ should get some iso plays against man coverage where he's special. Where's Jermaine McKenzie? All I see right now is poor use of personnel and poor playcalling on offense. If that was AJ instead of Farquharson on the post at the end it would've been a TD, not an INT.

On defense, I place the blame solely on the players themselves. We got absolutely no pressure up front, blitz or no blitz. Our defensive line was lazy and sluggish. UNC has no run game but we didn't drive through contact and gave up some first downs when we shouldn't have. Our corners got toasted time and time again but even a slight pass rush would've helped tremendously. Receivers shouldn't be running double moves and catching passes when we send 7 or 8 guys to get to the QB.

All game I was screaming at Nix's playcalling and I'm glad everyone else noticed. Enough is enough.

I could agree enough with your 1st paragraph.

"Patrick Nix is holding back our offense" is exactly the 1 sentence that would describe his time at Miami.

Factor into the offense the fact that one of our scores was from the 10 yard line because of a muffed punt. And add to all this the fact that we were getting the ball at the 40-45 yard line all game. Our special teams was lights out all game and our returns were outstanding forcing them to kick it out of bounds. We had great field position all game and could not do anything with it, mostly due to the playcalling. Nix just refuses to attack defenses and be aggressive on offense. He waits and hopes that the defense will make a mistake allowing us to have a big play instead of attacking and forcing the defense into a mistake that will cause a big play.

As for the defense. No secret they played sub par today. Agree with you there. However, I can't put the loss on them. With the exception of the last 10 minutes of the defense only gave up 14 points. I haven't checked the time of possession but it felt like the defense was out there all game because Nix wouldn't even call anything downfield enough to get us a 1st down. Our offense couldnt put together a string of 1st downs from the mid 2nd quarter on. It clearly showed on the go ahead drive when they were just pounding thru our defense at will until that last big pass play.

Bottom line when it comes to the defense. They need to play better. But the offense has to help them out as well. The offense needs to give them a blow every once in awhile and sustain some drives and not leave them out to dry. UNC is a very solid offensive team with alot of playmakers at WR, the longer our defense was out there against them, the bigger the chances were that UNC would come up with a big play. If our offense takes advantage of their subpar defense and gives our D a break then we aren't even having this discussion about our defense giving up 28 points.

[djp]

Hey, at least Florida lost.

[thebow305]

Haha, I'm still laughing that Bruce Johnson is even in Scott's rankings. I laughed when he said Bruce was our top Senior prospect and now it is finally justified (for all those who defended him). What a joke that guy is and anyone who thinks otherwise is being ignorant.

He's one of the single biggest reasons we lost today. The other two being Nix's atrocious play-calling (again) and the fact that Shannon's son, can't snap in the shotgun to save his own life.

Disgusting loss today, from all angles. Coop played good today, and that is it.

Originally Posted by thebow305

Haha, I'm still laughing that Bruce Johnson is even in Scott's rankings. I laughed when he said Bruce was our top Senior prospect and now it is finally justified (for all those who defended him). What a joke that guy is and anyone who thinks otherwise is being ignorant.

He's one of the single biggest reasons we lost today. The other two being Nix's atrocious play-calling (again) and the fact that Shannon's son, can't snap in the shotgun to save his own life.

Disgusting loss today, from all angles. Coop played good today, and that is it.

Shannon's son snapped fine all game. The one missed snap was because Robert started looking downfield and dropping back before he actually got the ball. Other then that he snaps the same way everyone else in college football snaps.

Disgusting loss from all angles? Let's not overreact here. This was definately our worst game but there was alot of positives to take out of this game.

- Robert Marve is a stud and a true leader. He drove them down the field with 45 seconds left and gave us a chance to win the game with a beautiful pass that should have been caught. When Farq couldn't pull it in, Marve takes responsibility and says it's his fault. That's in definition of a team player. He also has a great knack for getting yards out of plays that should be a loss. When he muffed the snap, he still managed to turn it into a position gain. I can't say enough about how huge that is for a football team to constantly be getting position yards out of breakdowns and mistakes.

- Our Special teams was outstanding. Benjamin is constantly getting huge returns and our blockers were out of hand. It forced them to kick away from us, allowing us to routinely start out at the 40 yard line all game. The coverage units had their best game of the season against one of the best return men in the country.

- You already mentioned Cooper, who is slowly turning into our next stud RB. He has looked outstanding, he has bulked up and he is running over people, not just around them this season.

- Our OL had it's best game of the season. They were manhandling people early in the game as Coop was going untouched for 5 yards a pop. They slowed u later in the game when we started facing 7-8 in the box due to Nix horrible PC but they still had a decent in the 2nd half as well holding up in the pass rush and giving Marve time to throw on a rare occasion it wasn't a QB draw, RB draw, quick screen or designed roll out.

-We played a bad game and still had control of that game throughout against a halfway decent football team. That says something about the talent level of our kids that our OC was clearly putting us in a hole all game long and yet we still had that game not only in our grasp but in our clear control until the final drive. Once our kids grow up and we get rid of some of the older players (Grant, Farq, Jones, Johnson, etc.) that are just not playing up to par, we will take another step. This is still a work in progress. We have more talent but we are still lacking at some spots (CB was the obvious one today) and we still need to mature, play more consistent and get a new OC.

[BigJohn98]

Joey, give me a prediction for next week.