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Old 06-05-2007, 04:08 PM    (permalink
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o and to think tony hunt or kenny irons could be better?
pleaseeeeeeeeee irons isnt very good IMO.. sure for a not big guy, he isnt very fast and lacks that strength u want

and hunt is a slower version of jamal
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eh i dont think so buddy

i would take at least 10 running backs over him
yea, and jamal lewis isnt one of them ..is he?
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nfl live just said that mcgahee is a bigger gain then AT was a loss


actually slareff(sp) said he was

but michael a smith said it was fiction
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yea, and jamal lewis isnt one of them ..is he?
thank you, we have a upgrade at RB who can go to the outside and catch passes. I am sure Ozzie set up McGahees contract so he can still re-sign Suggs.
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yea, and jamal lewis isnt one of them ..is he?

Actually Jamal is 1 of those guys, here are the guys better than Willis....

Thomas Jones
Jamal Lewis
LaDanian Tomlinson
Larry Johnson
Ronnie Brown
Cadillac Williams
Rudi Johnson
Willie Parker
Laurence Maroney
Travis Henry
Dominic Rhodes
Fred Taylor
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Ahman Green
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thank you, we have a upgrade at RB who can go to the outside and catch passes. I am sure Ozzie set up McGahees contract so he can still re-sign Suggs.
We actually don't have an upgrade at RB, and lets hope Ozzie did that.
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I actually hope Ozzie set it up so we can get rid of Willis as soon as possible with a minimal cap hit.
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dude have faith, since when did Ozzie screw enough things up for you not to trust him on this one, Willis is just a better back then Jamal. Willis is faster and is a bigger playmaker then Jamal, we need a play maker in the running game and Willis is a better one then Jamal.
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Actually Jamal is 1 of those guys, here are the guys better than Willis....

Thomas Jones
Jamal Lewis
LaDanian Tomlinson
Larry Johnson
Ronnie Brown
Cadillac Williams
Rudi Johnson
Willie Parker
Laurence Maroney
Travis Henry
Dominic Rhodes
Fred Taylor
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Joseph Addai
Ahman Green
Chester Taylor
Brian Westbrook
Clinton Portis
Ladell Betts
Julius Jones
Warrick Dunn
Deuce McAlister
Frank Gore
Edgerrin James
Shaun Alexander
Steven Jackson
He need to cut that list in half.
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dude have faith, since when did Ozzie screw enough things up for you not to trust him on this one, Willis is just a better back then Jamal. Willis is faster and is a bigger playmaker then Jamal, we need a play maker in the running game and Willis is a better one then Jamal.
Ozzie isnt flawless......

Travis Taylor, Marcus Robinson, Frank Sanders, Adalius Thomas (leaving), Elvis Grbac, the entire 06 draft (Dwan Edwards, Devard Darling, Clarence Moore, Brian Ripmf, the white KR from Kentucky who didn't make the team), giving Jarrett Johnson a highly overpriced contract. He has made mistakes and you can chalk Willis up as another one.
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He need to cut that list in half.
Not really Willis isn't as good as any of those RBs I named.
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Actually Jamal is 1 of those guys, here are the guys better than Willis....

Thomas Jones
Jamal Lewis
LaDanian Tomlinson
Larry Johnson
Ronnie Brown
Cadillac Williams
Rudi Johnson
Willie Parker
Laurence Maroney
Travis Henry
Dominic Rhodes
Fred Taylor
Maurice Jones-Drew
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Ahman Green
Chester Taylor
Brian Westbrook
Clinton Portis
Ladell Betts
Julius Jones
Warrick Dunn
Deuce McAlister
Frank Gore
Edgerrin James
Shaun Alexander
Steven Jackson

If I'm not mistaken, you just named the starting RB for all 31 NFL teams besides the Ravens.
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Thomas Jones
Jamal Lewis
Travis Henry
Dominic Rhodes
Ahman Green
Chester Taylor
Ladell Betts
Julius Jones

I would take Willis over those guys off you list for sure I think Warrick Dunn is a great player but I would take Willis over him as well do to age.
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Thomas Jones
Jamal Lewis
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Dominic Rhodes
Ahman Green
Chester Taylor
Ladell Betts
Julius Jones

I would take Willis over those guys off you list for sure.
You are not worried about having a good RB then, Thomas Jones is a billion times better than Willis, Travis Henry is way better than Willis, Ahman is better completely. Julius Jones might have been pushing it a tad.
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If I'm not mistaken, you just named the starting RB for all 31 NFL teams besides the Ravens.
No I didnt put Marshawn in there, though I would take Marshawn over Willis, I dont have the Packers starting RB.
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You are not worried about having a good RB then, Thomas Jones is a billion times better than Willis, Travis Henry is way better than Willis, Ahman is better completely. Julius Jones might have been pushing it a tad.
Ahman Green has not been good for three years Travis Henry is a good back but far from great he will look good in Denver do to there system. I'm not that high on Thomas Jones he has really had only two good years and they were just good not great. I mean Willis didn't have much help around him and still went over 1000 two of the last three years and was only 11 yards away from it last year.
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Lets look at stats, I know they dont tell the whole story but they tell a big part of the story....

Willis McGahee 259 carries for 990 yards, 3.8 ypc and 6 tds / 18 catches for 156 yards, 14 games 14 starts

Jamal Lewis 314 carries 1132 yards, 3.6 ypc 9 tds / 18 catches for 118 yards, 16 games 16 starts

Thomas Jones 296 carries 1210 yards, 4.1 ypc 6 tds / 36 catches for 154 yards, 16 games 16 starts

Travis Henry 270 carries for 1211 yards, 4.5 ypc 7 tds / 18 catches for 78 yards, 14 games 13 starts

Ladell Betts 245 carries for 1154 yards, 4.7 ypc 4 tds / 53 catches for 445 yards 1 td, 16 games only 9 starts


Betts would have been nice to get, the only hope I have is that being around guys like Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, and Jon Ogden will make Willis work hard and become better.
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Ahman Green in the same amount of games and starts as Willis had 1059 yards on 266 carries which is 4.0 ypc and 4 TDs, and he also had 46 catches for 373 yards and 1 TD. Ahman Green is better than Willis.
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It took JL 314 carries to get 1000 yards Willis was only 11 yards away from 1000 with just 259 carries on a bad team. You should be happy to have Willis a better all around back then JL and younger he is on a better team which will only make him a better player.
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It took JL 314 carries to get 1000 yards Willis was only 11 yards away from 1000 with just 259 carries on a bad team. You should be happy to have Willis a better all around back then JL and younger he is on a better team which will only make him a better player.
Jamal went over 1100 in 314 carries bud.
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Big deal the guy is not even close to the player he was I think you are just about the only person on this site that would take Jamal Lewis or Ahman Green over Willis.
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Well if you and the others are wrong thats not my problem I just tryin to drop some knowledge on ya. :)
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Don't mind him it's just ERU, he bashes the Ravens so he will feel better if they do bad, and feel accomplished if he is proven wrong.
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Ahman Green has not been good for three years Travis Henry is a good back but far from great he will look good in Denver do to there system. I'm not that high on Thomas Jones he has really had only two good years and they were just good not great. I mean Willis didn't have much help around him and still went over 1000 two of the last three years and was only 11 yards away from it last year.
Thats an interesting statement btw....

2004-2005= 259 carries, 1163 yards, 4.5 ypc, 7tds / 40 catches, 275 yards, 1td. 15 games 15 starts

2005-2006= 77 carries, 255 yards, 3.3 ypc / 19 catches, 147 yards. 5 games 5 starts

2006-2007= 266 carries, 1059 yards, 4.0 ypc, 5 tds / 46 catchesm 373 yards, 1 td. 14 games 14 starts

2 out of 3 of those years are good seasons.
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