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Old 06-05-2007, 07:19 PM    (permalink
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This took to long. Miami would've been better off getting him in as quickly as possible, as of the draft. He will be a good bridge to John Beck, though.
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alright we might get a 4th for him.a great deal by Carl and Miami
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Nice to see the deal finally got made, but I never really got what kind of leverage the Chiefs thought they had. They had already made it clear Green had little place in their quarterback corps.

Either way, they struck me as overly picky as to the compensation for trading away Green, but at least it's over now.
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Does this mean we won't get to see a heaping pile of awkwardness in front of HBO cameras? Shucks.
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Adios Daunte.

I'm still very lukewarm on this. I don't see the point of bringing him in for a year and giving up potentially a 4th rounder. All this likely does is puts us from 4-12 to 6-10.
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Nice to see the deal finally got made, but I never really got what kind of leverage the Chiefs thought they had. They had already made it clear Green had little place in their quarterback corps.

Either way, they struck me as overly picky as to the compensation for trading away Green, but at least it's over now.
Well once June 1st came and Green was still on the roster we really had no incentive to hurry this deal. Whether we traded/cut him now or the week before the season he was still going to count the same amount against the cap. If Miami really wanted him to be their starting QB this year they needed him in there before training camp so he can get the work in with the offense.

The leverage the Chiefs had was that they didn't have to move him anytime soon but everybody knew the Dolphins wanted him as their starter.
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Well once June 1st came and Green was still on the roster we really had no incentive to hurry this deal. Whether we traded/cut him now or the week before the season he was still going to count the same amount against the cap. If Miami really wanted him to be their starting QB this year they needed him in there before training camp so he can get the work in with the offense.

The leverage the Chiefs had was that they didn't have to move him anytime soon but everybody knew the Dolphins wanted him as their starter.
But it seems like quite a dick move to say, "Yeah, we could deal you and let you get used to playing with your new team. But we won't." And that seemed to be the case for the last few months.
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But it seems like quite a dick move to say, "Yeah, we could deal you and let you get used to playing with your new team. But we won't." And that seemed to be the case for the last few months.
Its also a dick move to say "Well he is worth a 4th rounder, but he wants to come to Miami so you are screwed haha! Here is your 6th!"
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Adios Daunte.

I'm still very lukewarm on this. I don't see the point of bringing him in for a year and giving up potentially a 4th rounder. All this likely does is puts us from 4-12 to 6-10.

Because you play to win the game.


They might be able to sneak in as a wildcard. you never know in the NFL. He could definitly play 2 more years as well.


What do you think Culpepper is gonna do now? retirement possibly? Falcons? Raiders for a year?
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I'm still trying to figure out who got the better end of the Daunte/Ryan Cook trade. :)
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So where is Daunte going?
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Its also a dick move to say "Well he is worth a 4th rounder, but he wants to come to Miami so you are screwed haha! Here is your 6th!"
Um, how so? Green is a vet who maybe has a few years left of real value coming off an injury plagued and statistically poor year from a team that he represents no actual value to.

How does that make his value a 4th rounder, and why are the Dolphins dicks for asking for less?
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Adios Daunte.

I'm still very lukewarm on this. I don't see the point of bringing him in for a year and giving up potentially a 4th rounder. All this likely does is puts us from 4-12 to 6-10.
Yes but if Beck picks up a few things he'd be well worth the fourth rounder.
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It is a about dang time I will miss Green but it was time for a change I'm happy with a 5th a 4th will be even better if it goes down like that but I'm happy with a 5th. The Chiefs all ready have three extra second day draft picks for the 08 draft one for Green one for Sims and one for Lawrence Tynes (kicker) nice work.
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It is a about dang time I will miss Green but it was time for a change I'm happy with a 5th a 4th will be even better if it goes down like that but I'm happy with a 5th. The Chiefs all ready have three extra second day draft picks for the 08 draft one for Green one for Sims and one for Lawrence Tynes (kicker) nice work.
yeah that is good news
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Um, how so? Green is a vet who maybe has a few years left of real value coming off an injury plagued and statistically poor year from a team that he represents no actual value to.

How does that make his value a 4th rounder, and why are the Dolphins dicks for asking for less?
Considering Carl Peterson got pretty much what he wanted for Green, I don't think you can claim that he over-valued him. He was worth more than a 6th rounder, Peterson called Miami's bluff and got a conditional 4th instead. Its not being overly picky to get the maximum value for a player.
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.....and the win goes to Carl Peterson.
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this could work out well for the dolphins....
having a QB not named beck starting this year is very fortunate and probably willl prevent them from a top 3 pick....
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Last year
Joey Harrington 6th that could become a 5th.

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Trent Green 5th into a 4th

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A bit of irony....

This whole Trent Green situation was eerily similar to last year's situation with Steve McNair and the Titans....other than the whole McNair lockout debacle, it was almost like the same story, only with different names.

With so many other similarities, it's only fitting (and rather ironic) that the Trent Green trade went down almost exactly one year after the McNair deal....only a couple days short.
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I like the move by the Chiefs. Trent Green manages a game well but they're paying huard enough money and he played well enough last year to earn the job. They could get a 4th round pick next year and in 2008 that player could make a difference when Trent Green may not.
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Thank god this is finally over! Croyle will be the starter next season IMO. From everything I've read Huard is going to have to have one heck of a training camp to win the job.
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