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Old 06-06-2007, 07:48 PM    (permalink
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He is better you just can't say Smith is as good just yet. Landry will be a pro bowler within the next 3 years.
It's possible, but you can't guarantee he'll be a pro-bowler.
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:23 PM    (permalink
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He said he will be a pro bowler, you just said Smith has the talent to be on Ed Reed's level.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:21 PM    (permalink
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He said he will be a pro bowler, you just said Smith has the talent to be on Ed Reed's level.
The Talent, like Potential, isn't a given or guarantee. He basically said "Book it, Landry will be a pro bowler in 3 years".


When you look at the SS's across the AFC, thats going to be pretty difficult...

You have:

Troy Polamalu, Steelers
Donte Whitner, Bills
Sean Jones, Browns
Antoine Bethea, Colts
Bernard Pollard, Chiefs
Rodney Harrison, Chargers
Michael Huff, Raiders
Chris Hope, Titans

Landry is good but Guaranteeing a Pro-Bowler is far more than me saying that Smith has talent/tools/potential to someday make Reeds level.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:37 PM    (permalink
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Landry making the pro bowl is a possibility, Smith doesn't have the talent of Ed Reed, not even close.
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putting Rodney Harrison on any list is like putting Junior Seau, LeCharles Bentley, Joe Thiesman, Napoleon McCallum on a list.
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putting Rodney Harrison on any list is like putting Junior Seau, LeCharles Bentley, Joe Thiesman, Napoleon McCallum on a list.
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yeah exactly. point made thanks
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As a chargers fan, I'm kind of suprised we got ranked that high. Our safety position has been the weakest position on our team now for several years and our starters are only getting older.
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:19 AM    (permalink
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bills got shafted.........w/e no biggie.
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Landry making the pro bowl is a possibility, Smith doesn't have the talent of Ed Reed, not even close.
You're right, we should judge him by 4 games and say he doesn't have Ed Reed possibilities. Smith is very talented and could develop to be a great FS. I'm going to stop and let him prove it.
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The Steelers at #1 is laughable. Anthony Smith showed flashes, but made his share of mistakes as well. Troy P was AVERAGE last year. Reed is the best in the game just ahead of Dawkins, and Landry was the top rookie defensive back in 2006. I watched Mark Clayton and Demetrius Williams tear up those Pittsburgh safeties last season. Again, laughable.
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can we stop talking about the steelers/ravens and discuss what a travesty it is that the broncos even made an appearance on that list?
No kidding.

I would actually be afraid of the Bailey/Bly tandem if the Broncos actually had a safety worth a damn. John Lynch and Nick Ferguson are both huge liabilities in coverage. Who cares if the Broncos have Bailey and Bly when teams are going to pick apart the middle of the field. Bailey and Bly had better be good because they are not going to receive much help over the top.
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You're right, we should judge him by 4 games and say he doesn't have Ed Reed possibilities. Smith is very talented and could develop to be a great FS. I'm going to stop and let him prove it.
So does Jimmy Williams, but I'm not saying anything about him being a great FS. The general rule of thumb; presume a young player won't develop as anticipated, that saves a lot of needless debate over conjecture.
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So does Jimmy Williams, but I'm not saying anything about him being a great FS. The general rule of thumb; presume a young player won't develop as anticipated, that saves a lot of needless debate over conjecture.
No, I think he is right, it's much more realistic to judge him on 4 games and say he has the talent of the best safety in the game.
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